How reliable is Kioti e.g. compared with Kabota?

[northcreek2624]

Kioti must be pretty reliable if Cub Cadet and Bobcat puts their names on them.
The things I like about Kioti are these: Their parts are very reasonable when compared to the big boys(not that I've bought many).Also when specifying lubes and other consumables they don't get you with "you must use Big Boy this and Big Boy that" they simply give you a grade and leave it up to you.
Lastly I had X amount of tractor dollars to spend,Kioti gave me biggest with the most stuff....just sayin'...Mike.

 

[CPM]

My 30 year old Kubota has been very reliable , as has my 250 hour Kioti .

Ask me in ten years :laughing:

You will get a much better price on the Kioti packages in Australia.

Still waiting to get a good price from our local dealer. I think they were a little taken aback with the aggressive pricing from Kubota just recently...

 

[kiotiken]

Kioti must be pretty reliable if Cub Cadet and Bobcat puts their names on them.
The things I like about Kioti are these: Their parts are very reasonable when compared to the big boys(not that I've bought many).Also when specifying lubes and other consumables they don't get you with "you must use Big Boy this and Big Boy that" they simply give you a grade and leave it up to you.
Lastly I had X amount of tractor dollars to spend,Kioti gave me biggest with the most stuff....just sayin'...Mike.

Cub Cadet is Yanmar, Kioti is the brand name of Daedong in North America and Daedong makes tractors for Bobcat, McCormick and Landini (not sure if there are others).

 

[wade simpson]

I had my ck20s for around 2 yrs. It now has 300 + hrs on it. The only really problem was I broke a shaft in the fwd drive. It was repaired and I've had no other problems. My tractors stays outside 24/7, hides under a tarp when I not at my camp.

I'm sorry I can't compare directly but guys from work have all types of tractors and we talk frequently. My tractor seems to be the same as the others for the type of use and size.

 

[Rudevette]

my kioti (bobcat) has 150 hours on it, has been shedded with a battery tender hooked on it since brand new, has had maintenance performed exactly to the letter by the owners manual and I'm currently spending my days out in the garage working on it. I'm not impressed.

 

[northcreek2624]

Cub Cadet is Yanmar, Kioti is the brand name of Daedong in North America and Daedong makes tractors for Bobcat, McCormick and Landini (not sure if there are others).

Kioti(Daedong) makes the largest Cub Cadet tractors(at least they did), Yanmar makes their smaller CUTS.

 

[grsthegreat]

My kioti is only 1 yr old and has 154 hours. so far so good. flawless machine. does everything i ask. very happy.

I looked at Kubota and JD before buying. Kioti at that time was many many 1000 $ less. I also see our local Kubota dealer has drastically dropped $$ on units in lot. See, competition IS a good thing. Of course JD just keeps raising their prices. they even stopped advertising in our local paper.

 

[cekkk]

My 12 year old Kioti is my 1st and probably last tractor, so I'm no expert. But it's never failed to do what I've asked of it, snow plowing mostly, moving all sizes of hay bails, augering, etc. Outside of grease, oil changes and a filter now and then it's been very low cost to operate. Somehow the original battery was just beginning to weaken last year.

If I were to find a fault, it seems the company has trouble keeping its dealers. Mine was just ten minutes away but sold out to a dealership that had carried them for a number of years and wanted a satellite store. But they quit Kioti and the horse trailer dealer across the road took them over. He's been around for decades but couldn't deal with them and wen to Bobcat. Another dealer out in the western part of the state left them and as far as I know there is now only one left, a couple hundred miles away. For a non mechanic like me that would be a worry if the ex dealer here loses his mechanics that remember how to work on them. They're long time employees but can't work forever.

 

[CJONE]

my kioti (bobcat) has 150 hours on it, has been shedded with a battery tender hooked on it since brand new, has had maintenance performed exactly to the letter by the owners manual and I'm currently spending my days out in the garage working on it. I'm not impressed.

Can you elaborate? If you are spending "days" working on it there must be a huge amount of problems with it.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Kioti must be pretty reliable if Cub Cadet and Bobcat puts their names on them.

we sold the Cub Cadet. It was a disaster that continues to haunt us.

 

[Coyote machine]

we sold the Cub Cadet. It was a disaster that continues to haunt us.

So is that to say the Cub Cadet had connections to Kioti/Daedong?
Please say more: I love a disaster! Was it them bursting into flames on the lot?! Parts that only fit backwards? What exactly are we talking about here?

 

[LD1]

So is that to say the Cub Cadet had connections to Kioti/Daedong?
Please say more: I love a disaster! Was it them bursting into flames on the lot?! Parts that only fit backwards? What exactly are we talking about here?

Good question

 

[Coyote machine]

Good question

Thanks! Now if only a good answer would appear- then we'd be onto something!:confused2::thumbsup:

 

[mike69440]

I own a Kioti and a Deere. Never owned a Kubota. But here's my experience with Kioti: On a brand new design that uses a lot of new parts, there have been some early design issues, like brittle injection pump parts and loader cross member cracking - general quality control of vendor supplied parts. However, Kioti has gone to great lengths to correct these issues for both current owners, and in redesigns. After those initial "growing pains", they are very reliable solid machines.

So, in potential futures purchases, Kioti would be on my list to evaluate. But, I would be more warey of a brand new design than I would one that was say 4 or 5 years since initial offering. My sense is that Kubota and John Deere have less of these growing pains on new designs. Some of it is probably experience or organizational differences. But, I suspect that the big boys are under less pressure to get products to the market because of the depth and breadth of the numbers and varieties of tractors they offer. This let's them do a longer more thorough flushing out of new designs before making them the available to the public.

All brands seem to have teething pains.
Kubota's are generally a quality machine, but I am surprised by the great number of parts they sell that have been superseded by a new part number, mostly due to a redesign, often because the original was not up to snuff.

I have no real problem with this, as Kubota seems to promptly correct problems and improve their product. However I would like to see some compensation policy be instituted for customers replacing a part that was redesigned that was less than robust originally.

 

[northcreek2624]

we sold the Cub Cadet. It was a disaster that continues to haunt us.

That's because Kioti's don't like to wear yellow/white color schemes.

I have used and abused my DK40 for ten years now having only to replace a tachometer cable for $8.Maybe I'm just lucky but, that's been my Kioti experience....Mike.

 

[lilranch2001]

That's because Kioti's don't like to wear yellow/white color schemes.

I have used and abused my DK40 for ten years now having only to replace a tachometer cable for $8.Maybe I'm just lucky but, that's been my Kioti experience....Mike.

2 years and 200 hours, and all I have done is normal maintenance
It does have that lazy hydro pedal, one of these days I will get around to btching to my dealer about it

 

[TractorTidy]

I don't think Kioti/Daedong has had any relationship w/ Cub. Cub has been Yanmar and Mitsubishi.

 

[Alan L.]

I apologize. I was summing it up. But you did not directly say "nicer"



Kioti is definatally going to be less expensive than a comparable kubota with similar features. It is just the way things work. Kioti is the "new" kid on the block. They havent been around long enough to make their name as well known. Kubota was in the same boat 15 years or so ago. They HAVE to be priced less than deere, CNH, kubota, et al. or they wouldnt sell many tractors.

That is not to take anything away. They are good tractors with MANY happy customers. But along with that, they will grow, and become as well known as kubota and deere. And then you will see them all priced in the same ballpark.

Its a lot longer than 15 years ago that Kubota was the "new kid on the block". It was the most established compact tractor 13 years ago when I bought mine.

I don't know about Kioti but I have two neighbors that had John Deere compact tractors and both them gave alot more trouble than mine. One of the neighbors traded his finally for a Kubota.

 

[8404]

I just love my Yellow DK40 from Cub Cadet. I make a living with my tractors, its got 2100hours of all bush hog work and have never changed anything other than filters and batteries since 2004. i doesnt use oil even after a full year of bush hogging.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

I don't think Kioti/Daedong has had any relationship w/ Cub. Cub has been Yanmar and Mitsubishi.

Yea they did. Cub has used several contact shops to build them tractors at one time or another. Daedong, Mahindra, Yanmar...