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andybuzlu
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Hello,
First post. I have been looking for a Jinma 354 with FEL here in Ontario, but no success finding a dealer. Last week I sent an e-mail to Jinma factory, they gave me FOB prices which seem OK. The main cost is the cost of container from Shangai to Toronto which is about $3,150/20' container for one tractor. Can you give me some idea what other costs like custum duties and charges there are and is it hard to clear the customs? Any other possible bumps so I may decide to self import or not? Thanks. Andy
First post. I have been looking for a Jinma 354 with FEL here in Ontario, but no success finding a dealer. Last week I sent an e-mail to Jinma factory, they gave me FOB prices which seem OK. The main cost is the cost of container from Shangai to Toronto which is about $3,150/20' container for one tractor. Can you give me some idea what other costs like custum duties and charges there are and is it hard to clear the customs? Any other possible bumps so I may decide to self import or not? Thanks. Andy
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Smalljobs
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Andy,
I have experience in importing from China so I had an advantage but plenty of people have successfully done it anyway.
First, I had Jinma factory quote it "CIF" Boston which means they selected the ocean freight carrier, delivered it to their local seaport, and were generally responsible for it all the way to Boston. This also included insurance. This will give you total price from Jinma factory to your local "port".
Once the cargo arrives at the nearest destination that is licensed to clear customs, you will need a broker. I've never imported into Canada but the process should be similar. Your broker will process all documents, clear customs, and arrange inland freight to a loading dock near you. You'll need a way to unload it. A local factory helped me out with my backhoe and two chippers and then I had a flatbed auto wrecker bring it to my house.
You can find a broker in the phone book/online so call a half dozen and find out how much it will cost you. Ideally you want a broker who has experience with tractors so that you will be certain of meeting all applicable Canada regulations for such a vehicle, emissions, etc. Maybe Jinma can recommend one in your area.
In the US the minimum charge might be $600-800 for the document process and then after that you have to arrange trucking to your final destination. You can do it yourself or have the broker arrange it. Inland freight will be extra.
If you import spare parts or a chipper or BH or whatever at the same time, your local broker charge might remain the same.
Hope this helps.
I have experience in importing from China so I had an advantage but plenty of people have successfully done it anyway.
First, I had Jinma factory quote it "CIF" Boston which means they selected the ocean freight carrier, delivered it to their local seaport, and were generally responsible for it all the way to Boston. This also included insurance. This will give you total price from Jinma factory to your local "port".
Once the cargo arrives at the nearest destination that is licensed to clear customs, you will need a broker. I've never imported into Canada but the process should be similar. Your broker will process all documents, clear customs, and arrange inland freight to a loading dock near you. You'll need a way to unload it. A local factory helped me out with my backhoe and two chippers and then I had a flatbed auto wrecker bring it to my house.
You can find a broker in the phone book/online so call a half dozen and find out how much it will cost you. Ideally you want a broker who has experience with tractors so that you will be certain of meeting all applicable Canada regulations for such a vehicle, emissions, etc. Maybe Jinma can recommend one in your area.
In the US the minimum charge might be $600-800 for the document process and then after that you have to arrange trucking to your final destination. You can do it yourself or have the broker arrange it. Inland freight will be extra.
If you import spare parts or a chipper or BH or whatever at the same time, your local broker charge might remain the same.
Hope this helps.
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Rich Waugh
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Andy,
One thing to keep in mind is that the cost to ship that 20' container is the same whether it is empty of absolutely crammed full, since ocean freight is calculated by the cubic footage of the load, not the weight. If you think you may want other implements for the tractor, now is the time to order them so they can be shipped for free, so to speak.
Another thing to remember is that ocean freight is very cheap compared to overland freight - overland freight is calculated by the weight (tractors are heavy!) so you want to do everything you can to minimize the overland costs. Flat bed wreckers are usually much cheaper for short hauls than freight trucks. For long hauls, there is way to cut costs by accepting the shipping be done on an "as convenient" basis, instead of quick scheduling/routing.
I don't know anything about Canadian customs so I can't help there. A good customs broker will be your best friend on that. Some freight companies include the customs brokering in the shipping fee, some don't. Be sure you know which they do so you don't pay for it twice.
One thing to keep in mind is that the cost to ship that 20' container is the same whether it is empty of absolutely crammed full, since ocean freight is calculated by the cubic footage of the load, not the weight. If you think you may want other implements for the tractor, now is the time to order them so they can be shipped for free, so to speak.
Another thing to remember is that ocean freight is very cheap compared to overland freight - overland freight is calculated by the weight (tractors are heavy!) so you want to do everything you can to minimize the overland costs. Flat bed wreckers are usually much cheaper for short hauls than freight trucks. For long hauls, there is way to cut costs by accepting the shipping be done on an "as convenient" basis, instead of quick scheduling/routing.
I don't know anything about Canadian customs so I can't help there. A good customs broker will be your best friend on that. Some freight companies include the customs brokering in the shipping fee, some don't. Be sure you know which they do so you don't pay for it twice.
Bob Rooks
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There are Less Than (full) Load (LTL) trucking companies and truckers that specialize in just that, and it is somewhat cheaper, however, how soon you get your shipment depends on where it is loaded on the truck - usually last in, first out, and how many stops before they get to you.
Luremaker
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I have never imported a tractor from China but I do import many other items. I only took a quick glance at the 2012 tariff book but i think there are no duties on tractors from "Most Favoured Nations" for 2012. You can save yourself a lot by doing the customs clearance yourself. You will have to pay the the HST unless the tractor is over 60 PTO HP (might be higher - call your local HST Office) in-which case it will be zero rated for HST:thumbsup:.
If you decide to import the tractor yourself it will sit in a bonded area until it has cleared customs and all amounts payable to the "Receiver General" are paid in full. Storage fees may apply if not cleared quickly. It should not take anymore than an hour of you time to do the required paperwork. If you do a search a few TBN members from Ontario have imported various implements direct from China without any problems other than the regular QA issues.
My experience with customs officials has been very positive and most are willing to go out of their way to help a first timer. I recommend you visit the CBSA website, as the answers to all your questions can be found there.
TTTTTT
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If you really want to self import you could try CBP
http://chinabestproducts.com/
I almost went through them until I got a great deal on my DF. I have not seen any Jinma dealers in Ont. but there are some DF dealers close to Ottawa
There are this dealer as well
Foton Tractors - JDB Sales and Services
Here is a Foton 354 from an auction place in Ont. As well
Brindley Auction Service
Hope it helps Dave