Buying Advice ck35 or Kubota b3300 su

[grampastractor]

I have prices on the ck35 and b3300 su, both new with fel. Prices are almost the same. Which would you choose and why?
Not sure if I should post this under Kioti as well?
I have never had a new tractor, 1010 deere being the newest ever, but my wife wants us to buy new this time.
Thanks for sharing your knowlegde.
Don

 

[General Lee]

If you like the Kioti dealer, I would probably get the Kioti. Both are good brands, but the Kioti's spec out better, especially in the FEL category. Kubota FEL capacity is skimpy until you get into the Grand L and M series. Just my opinion

 

[charleyfarmall]

They are somewhat different. I do not have experience with the 3300 but I have ck27hst which is the same base tractor as the ck35.

The Kioti is substantially heavier which is one reason why I bought it. I wanted the weight and traction, especially when getting firewood out of the woods, using the loader, and pulling trailers - particularly on inclines.

I also use the 3pt hitch a lot and the Kioti has position control ( as do most tractors) where as the Kubota has a quarter inching valve which I hate.

I am sure others will add their opinions soon.

 

[namesray]

I have prices on the ck35 and b3300 su, both new with fel. Prices are almost the same. Which would you choose and why?
Not sure if I should post this under Kioti as well?
I have never had a new tractor, 1010 deere being the newest ever, but my wife wants us to buy new this time.
Thanks for sharing your knowlegde.
Don

looking at the b3300su recently. probably will buy one just as soon as finances line up for me. i have a b7800, very simular to the b3300su and i love it. (looking at the b3300su as a second tractor for my small business) i have over 850 hours on my b7800 and hardly any problems what so ever. (few minor=cracked 3ph tube=my fault from ramming with it pulling too big a tree up hill=fixed under warrenty) i put over 300 hours on my b7800 just last year and it never missed a single beat. the b3300su is the largest of the b series. can put larger r-4 tires on it to gain a few hundred pounds when loaded. the 1/4" 3ph controls do leak down very slowly when operating, such as when i am bushogging i have to bump it up just a bit every 20 minutes or so, as a position control 3ph stays put (ex:kioti) i actually like the 1/4" valve for the fine tune adjustments for what i do and i can easily tolerate it slowly leaking down. the b3300su has no mid pto, so if the kioti has one and you need it, that would be a plus. i am not trying to sway you the kubota side, as i just don't know much about the kioti's and i have been around kubotas all my life. just giving you my experiences. if you like a dealer better, or one is closer, that would be a big factor. good luck and happy tractor shopping.

 

[TripleR]

I will never buy anything again without position control. so...

 

[grampastractor]

Thanks everyone, all great points.
I have been quoted a price for the ck30 that is about $1500 less than the kubota ( ck35 was a little more than the b3300su), but hate to let price be the deciding factor when they are so close.
Wish I could buy them both and return the one I don't want in a month. Hope to decide this coming week.
Thanks again for your help.
Don

 

[k0ua]

I will never buy anything again without position control. so...

yep
bump bump.. bump bump. every 15 minutes bump bump up the 3pt.:laughing::laughing:

James K0UA

 

[grampastractor]

yep
bump bump.. bump bump. every 15 minutes bump bump up the 3pt.:laughing::laughing:

James K0UA

I didn't think of that as a bad thing, my jd1010 needs bump, bump, bump every 10 seconds or so.
Yet another plus for the kioti.
Thanks, this the practical exprience that will help us chose.
73
Don
va3any

 

[k0ua]

I didn't think of that as a bad thing, my jd1010 needs bump, bump, bump every 10 seconds or so.
Yet another plus for the kioti.
Thanks, this the practical exprience that will help us chose.
73
Don
va3any

Yeah it is not a deal breaker if you really like the Kubota better, I had one with that kind of a lift for 8 years, and learned to deal with it. Annoying but doable.. I see you are a "one of us" in your signature..

73
James K0UA

 

[grampastractor]

.. I see you are a "one of us" in your signature..
73
James K0UA[/QUOTE]


If you think I am having a hard time picking a tractor you should have seen me trying to reason between the rig I wanted and the one I felt comfortable spending the money for. My wife couldn't take it any more and gave me an early birthday present, this was a few years ago.
Like tractors all my equipment before that was old, some would glow in the dark.

73
Don va3any

 

[k0ua]

.. I see you are a "one of us" in your signature..
73
James K0UA

If you think I am having a hard time picking a tractor you should have seen me trying to reason between the rig I wanted and the one I felt comfortable spending the money for. My wife couldn't take it any more and gave me an early birthday present, this was a few years ago.
Like tractors all my equipment before that was old, some would glow in the dark.

73
Don va3any[/quote]

Ah yes, I do fondly remember that smell that the old "glow in the dark" rigs would emit as they warmed up, That hot dusty smell. Just a memory for me now, I havent had one for about 25 years I think.. I think the last one was a Kenwood TS820s..Of course it only had 3 tubes. It was a great old rig. are you on 20 or 17 meters? We could work some time if you like


73
James K0UA

 

[grampastractor]

Ah yes, I do fondly remember that smell that the old "glow in the dark" rigs would emit as they warmed up, That hot dusty smell. Just a memory for me now, I havent had one for about 25 years I think.. I think the last one was a Kenwood TS820s..Of course it only had 3 tubes. It was a great old rig. are you on 20 or 17 meters? We could work some time if you like
73
James K0UA[/QUOTE]



Hi James, we getting ready to sell the home we are in and build a few miles away so I do not have anything in the air just now except a 80m wire dipole and it is attached to the chimney at one end and a flag pole at the other, about 15 feet high. A cloud warmer, but we could try. It might load up on 20.
One reason I wanted a BH was to dig the holes for a few towers, beams and repeaters, looks like I will need to sharpen my shovel.
73
Don va3any

 

[k0ua]

Ah yes, I do fondly remember that smell that the old "glow in the dark" rigs would emit as they warmed up, That hot dusty smell. Just a memory for me now, I havent had one for about 25 years I think.. I think the last one was a Kenwood TS820s..Of course it only had 3 tubes. It was a great old rig. are you on 20 or 17 meters? We could work some time if you like
73
James K0UA

Hi James, we getting ready to sell the home we are in and build a few miles away so I do not have anything in the air just now except a 80m wire dipole and it is attached to the chimney at one end and a flag pole at the other, about 15 feet high. A cloud warmer, but we could try. It might load up on 20.
One reason I wanted a BH was to dig the holes for a few towers, beams and repeaters, looks like I will need to sharpen my shovel.
73
Don va3any[/quote]

It would be fun to try. yeah the 15 foot high dipole is definately NVIS for sure,on 80 but it could work especially on 20. I bet it would. if you can match it on 20.

James K0UA

 

[kiotiken]

The CK 35 is significantly more tractor, IMHO, but then, I might be a little biased. I'm betting a CK20 would far out work the Kubota.

 

[Johndeere3720]

I would get the Kioti. You will get a heavier tractor with better capacities and a position control 3 point hitch. Don't settle for less either, get the CK35, you will never know when you need the extra HP. :thumbsup:

 

[grampastractor]

Thanks for all the knowledge you all have shared.
I have compiled a list of features and suggestions that you all have made, listing Kioti on one side of the page and Kubota on the other. To make it fair I compared the b3300su to the ck35 because they are the same price here. If I buy Kioti it would likely be the ck30 to save $1500.
Dealer, both seem top notch, Kubota dealer has been around forever. He handles a number of major tractor companies and I have known these guys on a first name basis for decades. I just met the Kioti dealer who only carries Kioti. Both dealers are close by, with several other Kubota and Kioti dealers with in a short drive. I have not driven either one yet. Kioti dealer offered to drop one off so we can test it. Kubota dealer does not have this model in stock but can get it with in 2 weeks if I buy one.

Ck35 has a little more hp (ck30 a little less hp and less money)
ck has greater hydraulic pump flow, it is heavier by more than 1000 lbs, 300 lbs more 3 pth lifting, position control for 3 pth, 3 cyclinder engine ( more like the kubota L series), 4 year warranty vs 2 year, a few extra features or options like cruise control and mid pto.

Kubota, lighter - may be easier on the lawn with finishing mower, has known resale value, I like the dealer better , 4 cyclinder engine may have advantages,
and most of all its a Kubota and I love just looking at the b3300su.

So on the specs side the Kioti appears to be well ahead.
Did I miss anything?
Thanks
Don

 

[kuboman]

Just to mess the waters some more here have you looked at Massey Ferguson. They are quite impressive but I know nothing about them. And a lot cheaper than anything else in our area.

 

[grampastractor]

Just to mess the waters some more here have you looked at Massey Ferguson. They are quite impressive but I know nothing about them. And a lot cheaper than anything else in our area.

Yes I asked the local dealer for a quote and it was higher than the other 2 so I never went to see them. I also got quotes for new holland and john deere both were close to 10% higher than kioti and kubota.
Thanks for the help
Don

 

[kuboman]

Yes I asked the local dealer for a quote and it was higher than the other 2 so I never went to see them. I also got quotes for new holland and john deere both were close to 10% higher than kioti and kubota.
Thanks for the help
Don

Just out of curiosity what model of MF did you price.

 

[grampastractor]

Just out of curiosity what model of MF did you price.

I didn't keep the info but if I remember correctly it was a mf 1532. Did not see one in person so I have no opinion on it.
I did my early footwork on the phone. Some sales people didn't care to give much effort on pricing to " some guy on the phone". The new holland, kubota and kioti dealers all put real effort into finding out which tractors would be right for our use and quoting a price on the phone. Not saying the mf dealer didn't help just that the other 3 stood out.
Don