Woods 5000 chipper shredder

[Gordon Gould]

I'm excited to be able to update this thread with my latest purchase. I bought a Bearcat chipper/shredder with blower. It was listed on CL and I happen to see it just after it was posted. The seller informed me I was 5th in line to see it. It was a single mother of three selling it to make ends meet. So after a bit of dicsussion with her she asked if she was listing it for too little.

She had it listed for $1200 but everyone else was trying to negotiate for less. I explained what it cost new and told her I'd be willing to give her $1500 for it since it had the blower. But I insisted she contact the other's ahead of me to see if they'd match my offer.

And to my excitement they did not. Now I normally don't offer more and didn't want to under cut anyone but I felt they were trying to swindle this poor lady. The first guy was offering $800 and the rest $1000. I'll post some pics later as it's rain/snowing now.

Matt

Sounds like you played fair and got a good deal to boot. :thumbsup:
I am pretty sure you will like your new set up. Your tractor power is almost identical to my L3010 and I get along good with my bearcat chipper w/ blower. I hardly ever use the shreder but If you are going to use the shredder you might want to check the screen between the shreder compartment and the blower. There are several size screens available. I have the standard one with 7/8" holes. I can shred sticks and dry leaves but wet leaves clog the screen. You need the one with the biggest holes ( 1.25" I think ) to shred wet leaves and stuff that cake up.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

As I suspected the pto shaft is way too short. So I'll need to get that corrected. It looks like I'll be able to use it with my Imatch so I'm happy about that. Pics as promised:

 

[RoyJackson]

As I suspected the pto shaft is way too short. So I'll need to get that corrected. It looks like I'll be able to use it with my Imatch so I'm happy about that. Pics as promised:

You will have to modifiy the top hook up point...that's what stopped me using my Deere QH (same as yours, BTW).

Also, on my 4400, I have to use that PTO Adapter I linked to a post or two back...even without the QH (which would require an even longer PTO drive shaft). This kind of surprised me since it all worked with my old 790 and the Pat's Easy Change.
One thing I don't know is how (or if) the previous owner had trimmed the driveshaft for use on his old Ford (8N or something of that era). I might be in the market for a new driveshaft too.

Getting back to the top link connection on the chipper, I plan on fabricating a piece to lower the chipper's connection enough to grab the QH hook. Since I don't want this to be permanent, I'll put flanges or other anti-rotation methods on the fabricated part. Still kicking around the design though.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

I have a yoke that works for the top of the Imatch. I just tested the fit and it's going to work fine. I pulled the whole pto shaft off and think I'll just try to replace the entire thing. Figured I'd check the belts and bearings. Mice had packed the compartments full but to my relief didn't chew the belts. The belts look virgin and everything appears near new. Is there supposed to be an overrun clutch on the drive shaft? If so this one doesn't appear to have it.

Matt

 

[RoyJackson]

I have a yoke that works for the top of the Imatch. I just tested the fit and it's going to work fine. I pulled the whole pto shaft off and think I'll just try to replace the entire thing. Figured I'd check the belts and bearings. Mice had packed the compartments full but to my relief didn't chew the belts. The belts look virgin and everything appears near new. Is there supposed to be an overrun clutch on the drive shaft? If so this one doesn't appear to have it.

Matt

I'd like to see a picture of that yoke...

No overruning clutch on mine either (did you mean slipclutch, BTW?). Should you get something in there that jams the chipper, the belts will slip and prevent damage to the tractor and hard parts of the chipper...they'll smoke like a b*tch!

I expect I'll need a new driveshaft too, if I want to use the chipper with the QH. Since I've just cleaned up from the winter (got several bushels of chips), it's not a big hurry...but Messick's isn't too far from me (maybe 30 miles) and I think I'll check out the length of a new drive shaft.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

I'd like to see a picture of that yoke...

No overruning clutch on mine either (did you mean slipclutch, BTW?). Should you get something in there that jams the chipper, the belts will slip and prevent damage to the tractor and hard parts of the chipper...they'll smoke like a b*tch!

I expect I'll need a new driveshaft too, if I want to use the chipper with the QH. Since I've just cleaned up from the winter (got several bushels of chips), it's not a big hurry...but Messick's isn't too far from me (maybe 30 miles) and I think I'll check out the length of a new drive shaft.

Alot of chippers come with an overrun clutch, I thought I saw one while looking at the Woods manual for the 5000. I need the new pto shaft even if I remove the Imatch. I'll try to snap a pic for you tomorrow. I went to TSC tonite to see if I could get another PTO shaft. TSC has really been disappointing me lately. They need to decide if they want to be a home improvement store or a tractor place.

Matt

 

[RoyJackson]

Alot of chipper come with an overrun clutch, I thought I saw one while looking at the Woods manual for the 5000. I need the new pto shaft even if I remove the Imatch. I'll try to snap a pic for you tomorrow. I went to TSC tonite to see if I could get another PTO shaft. TSC has really been disappointing me lately. They need to decide if they want to be a home improvement store or a tractor place.

Matt

I'd appreciate the picture!

Yeah, TSC sells a lot of clothing too...at least the local one (outside York PA).

I'm surprised that PTO Adapter won't work for you...works fine with my 4400 once I remove the QH. It's been a while since I pulled the PTO drive shaft half off the chipper, but IIRC, that's not a standard 1.375 x 6 spline yoke.

 

[Martian]

Nice looking chipper Matt, congrats!

TSC has been going down hill around here too. Went for some hydraulic fittings and hose and of course they wouldn't have any. I was happy to take my business to the JD dealer.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

Martian, how will the chipper look behind a 110? I'll have to find out I guess.

TSC had about 10 pto shafts but all were square drive, no triangle style. I think I may disassemble the U joint itself and add the new pto shaft that way. Then the TSC unit would work, but man pto shafts are spendy:ashamed:.

Matt

 

[RoyJackson]

Martian, how will the chipper look behind a 110? I'll have to find out I guess.

TSC had about 10 pto shafts but all were square drive, no triangle style. I think I may disassemble the U joint itself and add the new pto shaft that way. Then the TSC unit would work, but man pto shafts are spendy:ashamed:.

Matt

Have you priced one from Bearcat, or Woods? I'd guess they're a bit spendy too. But you still might end up with a driveshaft that is too short.

Your idea of rebuilding what you have sounds good...that way you can get the length you need.

BTW, since you asked how the chipper will look behind a 110, there is (or was) a 15 minute Youtube video of a Woods or Bearcat chipper/shredder running behind an open station Deere 110. I've got the video in this PC (somewhere), but it's probably too big to upload.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

Have you priced one from Bearcat, or Woods? I'd guess they're a bit spendy too. But you still might end up with a driveshaft that is too short.

Your idea of rebuilding what you have sounds good...that way you can get the length you need.

Holy smokes your fast Roy, I hadn't finish posting this and you replied. The factory unit will be too short,best I can tell. I'd also like to standardize to all square shafts. That way in a pinch I could interchange parts.

Matt

 

[Martian]

Martian, how will the chipper look behind a 110? I'll have to find out I guess.

Look pretty good I'd say! The 110 might make it seem a little smaller though!

 

[RoyJackson]

Holy smokes your fast Roy, I hadn't finish posting this and you replied. The factory unit will be too short,best I can tell. I'd also like to standardize to all square shafts. That way in a pinch I could interchange parts.

Matt

Yeah, I'm quick (sometimes).
You'll probably just need the inner and outer tubes and should be able to utilize the yokes.
BTW, don't forget that picture of that top link connection adapter.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

Yeah, I'm quick (sometimes).
You'll probably just need the inner and outer tubes and should be able to utilize the yokes.
BTW, don't forget that picture of that top link connection adapter.

I did you one better, got you a video. It's the adapter he's talking about. I also own a Woods quick hitch, this adapter came with it. I find the Imatch is better quality so I opt for it and use the adapter.

Here Ya go:[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kam1f1uMyYE]Speeco Quick Hitches - YouTube[/ame]

 

[RoyJackson]

I did you one better, got you a video. It's the adapter he's talking about. I also own a Woods quick hitch, this adapter came with it. I find the Imatch is better quality so I opt for it and use the adapter.

Here Ya go:Speeco Quick Hitches - YouTube

Thanks for the video!
Have you tried it yet? It seems like that adapter would allow the implement to move around a bit...just visualizing it.

I think the Deere hitch is excellent quality...but I wish it had that movable top hook like the one in the video. Land Pride's QH is also adjustable like this one (and your Woods).

This is one of those times I wish I still worked in a fabrication shop. I know how to do this kind of thing...except I can't weld any more (pacemaker prhibits getting too close to a welder).

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

Thanks for the video!
Have you tried it yet? It seems like that adapter would allow the implement to move around a bit...just visualizing it.

I think the Deere hitch is excellent quality...but I wish it had that movable top hook like the one in the video. Land Pride's QH is also adjustable like this one (and your Woods).

This is one of those times I wish I still worked in a fabrication shop. I know how to do this kind of thing...except I can't weld any more (pacemaker prhibits getting too close to a welder).

Yes, I tried it yesterday, it worked pretty well infact. The Imatch is the best constructed I've looked at them all first hand. The Landpride is pretty nice also. The Woods looks to be a speedco rebadged.:thumbsup:

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

I have had a terrible time getting the pto shaft materials. It was one of the hardest tractor related issues I've had. Everything from bad U joint and yoke to roll pins welded in place. Then once I replaced the U joint one of the roller bearings fell in the wrong spot in the bearing housing. But I finally got to run it tonite.


As everyone who own's a chipper has stated, watch your hands! The shredder is crazy fast but I'm sure the blades need to be sharpened on the chipper. I know I said I was going to preemtively sharpen them but with all the pto shaft issues I just didn't get to it. The wood seemed to kind of bounce off the blades as it hit them and not self feed. So I hope sharpening will rememdy this.

Matt

 

[RoyJackson]

I have had a terrible time getting the pto shaft materials. It was one of the hardest tractor related issues I've had. Everything from bad U joint and yoke to roll pins welded in place. Then once I replaced the U joint one of the roller bearings fell in the wrong spot in the bearing housing. But I finally got to run it tonite.


As everyone who own's a chipper has stated, watch your hands! The shredder is crazy fast but I'm sure the blades need to be sharpened on the chipper. I know I said I was going to preemtively sharpen them but with all the pto shaft issues I just didn't get to it. The wood seemed to kind of bounce off the blades as it hit them and not self feed. So I hope sharpening will rememdy this.

Matt

Boy!! Sorry to read about the drive shaft problems!! You just got the tubes and used the original yokes, right?

Yep, the shredder is a beast!!

And, yep...your chipper blades are very dull, sounds like.

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

Boy!! Sorry to read about the drive shaft problems!! You just got the tubes and used the original yokes, right?

Yep, the shredder is a beast!!

And, yep...your chipper blades are very dull, sounds like.

I had a hard time locating the triangular drive shaft locally. A local dealer had 3' of it so I picked it up. The original shaft was pinned with a roll pin. A genius had the bright idea to tack the pin in place. So using the original yokes required a 25ton press. Then the U joints were shot and replacement turned into a nightmare since the drive shaft was metric. It was quite the ordeal.

Matt

 

[GreatWhitehunter]

So for the guys who own this model. I'm getting three different part# for the chipper blades. Are the blades stamped with part#? Are the double sided and single sided blades interchangeable? I'd like to have a spare set just in case.

Matt