Global Warming?

[Rob-D]

Your right. That's why developing other energy sources should be developed. Those that control the oil control you. The U.S. does not control the oil.

Global warming will come whether man had a impact or not. The Earth is not a unchanging static globe.

I agree, sure it's dynamic but the problem is that we are asleep at the wheel. What happens when we start talking bout developing new energy or the simple act of Gifford Pinchot's perception that conserving so our resources will last longer. Some talk show host gets on the air and calls it a conspiracy. People won't even use CFL's, how silly is that? When I tell my nephew that his mother's old thermometer had 600 times more mercury than a CFL I get the 'deer in the headlights' stare.

People hate Al Gore, are we kidding?
Rob

 

[newbury]

Old age! That's where the link took me when someone posted. Or 'B' above, it's always fun to chide Eddie!

Rob

You mean you don't read the thread from start to finish every day?

 

[Rob-D]

You mean you don't read the thread from start to finish every day?

No, besides it's like murder, there is no picking on Statute of Limitations for Eddie, Curly Dave and Houston Scott!

Rob

 

[Mace Canute]

powerpace's post #671 about when temperatures were started to be taken

Formal observations and recording of weather didn't happen in the U.S. till 1880's.

reminded me of this: From Hudson Bay Post - Climate Change and Hudson Bay

The first long-term studies of climate change took place along the coast of Hudson Bay at places like Churchill and York Factory.........Weather records for York Factory and Churchill date all the way back to 1714 and 1718, respectively.

Apparently we were a tad ahead of the times up here in the Great White North, eh?

 

[SPYDERLK]

Hi EE,
Yes a gallon of gas is measured in Kw, not KWh and the guy can generate 100 watts, when he does it for an hour he makes 100 Wh and after 8 hours 800 Wh. Writing faster than I'm thinking again!!

Rob

No. A gallon of gas is energy - so KW-Hrs. The figure for gasoline is 11. 4 KWhrs/kilogram. Around 30KWhr/gal.
larry

 

[powerpace]

powerpace's post #671 about when temperatures were started to be taken reminded me of this: From Hudson Bay Post - Climate Change and Hudson Bay Apparently we were a tad ahead of the times up here in the Great White North, eh?

Your probably right. Eh?
The HBC ran their business like a business should be. Everything written down and accounted for. Including the people.

 

[Egon]

Hush, hush Mace. Don't let the Canahodian secret out. Gotta keep them hole cards covered!?:thumbsup:

 

[Rob-D]

No. A gallon of gas is energy - so KW-Hrs. The figure for gasoline is 11. 4 KWhrs/kilogram. Around 30KWhr/gal.
larry

Yes, that's correct, my initial statement was right.
Thanks for the correction, Larry.

 

[patrick_g]

How to curb discharge of the most potent greenhouse gas: 50-percent reduction in meat consumption and emissions

Posted: 13 Apr 2012 07:08 AM PDT

A new study found that meat consumption in the developed world would need to be cut by 50 percent per person by 2050, and emissions in all sectors -- industrial and agricultural -- would need to be reduced by 50 percent if we are to meet the most aggressive strategy set by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), to reduce the most potent of greenhouse gases, nitrous oxide (N2O).


Poor spring rain projected in Africa

Posted: 12 Apr 2012 11:18 AM PDT

Spring rains in the eastern Horn of Africa are projected to begin late this year and be substantially lower than normal. From March to May, the rains are expected to total only 60 to 85 percentage of the average rainfall in this region. This is a significant deterioration compared to earlier forecasts.


Well, we don't have CO2 to kick around anymore but luckily we still have nitrous oxide aka laughing gas. So taken together the above two revelations make an interesting brew. Cut meat herd production in half which lowers nitrous oxide and we lose an important source of feeling good and having a chuckle and then the starvation in Africa due to drought catches us without enough beef to give them. It is always something!

Pat

 

[Rob-D]

How to curb discharge of the most potent greenhouse gas: 50-percent reduction in meat consumption and emissions

Posted: 13 Apr 2012 07:08 AM PDT

A new study found that meat consumption in the developed world would need to be cut by 50 percent per person by 2050, and emissions in all sectors -- industrial and agricultural -- would need to be reduced by 50 percent if we are to meet the most aggressive strategy set by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), to reduce the most potent of greenhouse gases, nitrous oxide (N2O).


Poor spring rain projected in Africa

Posted: 12 Apr 2012 11:18 AM PDT

Spring rains in the eastern Horn of Africa are projected to begin late this year and be substantially lower than normal. From March to May, the rains are expected to total only 60 to 85 percentage of the average rainfall in this region. This is a significant deterioration compared to earlier forecasts.


Well, we don't have CO2 to kick around anymore but luckily we still have nitrous oxide aka laughing gas. So taken together the above two revelations make an interesting brew. Cut meat herd production in half which lowers nitrous oxide and we lose an important source of feeling good and having a chuckle and then the starvation in Africa due to drought catches us without enough beef to give them. It is always something!

Pat

Cornell Science News: Livestock Production

"U.S. could feed 800 million people with grain that livestock eat, Cornell ecologist advises animal scientists
Future water and energy shortages predicted to change face of American agriculture"


"beef cattle production requires an energy input to protein output ratio of 54:1."

"If all the grain currently fed to livestock in the United States were consumed directly by people, the number of people who could be fed would be nearly 800 million," David Pimentel, professor of ecology in Cornell University's College of Agriculture and Life Sciences, reported at the July 24-26 meeting of the Canadian Society of Animal Science in Montreal. Or, if those grains were exported, it would boost the U.S. trade balance by $80 billion a year, Pimentel estimated."

Rob