Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options?

   / Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options? #11  
Take a look at this electric toilet.
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Our church had one of these at a cabin and it worked fine.
 
   / Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options? #12  
Composting toilet would be my first vote. Second you could just bury a holding tank since you'd probably only have to have it pumped every couple years and could do the main septic tank at the same time every other time or so. I'm sure you could also spend tons of money and pump it up the hill, but that's not an option I'd want.
 
   / Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options? #13  
Use a sewage ejection pump. I have one below my basement floor to pump shower water up to sewer outlet.

You can buy the complete setup at one of the big box home improvement stores:

11/32 HP Sewage Ejector System-FP400C at The Home Depot

Fairly inexpensive, and works fine. Yes replacing pump is a crappy job. Mine seems to last about 7 years, and it handles no less then 4 showers daily.
 
   / Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options? #14  
Use a sewage ejection pump. I have one below my basement floor to pump shower water up to sewer outlet.

You can buy the complete setup at one of the big box home improvement stores:

11/32 HP Sewage Ejector System-FP400C at The Home Depot

Fairly inexpensive, and works fine. Yes replacing pump is a crappy job. Mine seems to last about 7 years, and it handles no less then 4 showers daily.

I'm not sure a sewage pump is made to pump 200' uphill. There would be a lot of material left in the line that would drain back to the pit, I don't think they generally have a check valve type set up on them.
 
   / Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options?
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#15  
Take a look at this electric toilet.
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Our church had one of these at a cabin and it worked fine.

This looks awesome! I'll have to search for more reviews to see what others say. But it looks promising!
 
   / Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options? #16  
Hi all!

At our place we have a 25x36 heated and insulated pole barn/shop. I am getting quotes on adding onto it and adding an office (so when done it will be 50x36 with an office of about 10x16).

It would be nice to add a toilet and sink. But, it's downhill and about 200 feet away from the septic where the sewage exits the house and enters the first tank (then the 2nd tank, then the mound system).

Besides pumping uphill are there any other ways this could be done? Maybe with a small pit, or something that mimicks a sort of porta potty? Or any other options?

Already have a water line run to right outside the shop and a hydrant hooked up, so it is possible to run water if needed by splicing that line I imagine (I have some friends that do directional boring that could do that part).

Or, I could just mount a urinal on the wall with a pipe going to the ground outside.. lol..

Have you priced lift stations? They are pretty affordable and easy to install. Sewage is pumped up hill all over the place, without pumping, it would never get to where it needs to go.

Grinder pump sewage lift stations from Triple D Pump

NORWECO WASTEWATER PUMP UNIT - Sewage Lift Station SIMPLEX 1/3 HP PUMP SC-103 | eBay

I've never actually built one, but have done some research on them and they are pretty basic. Code and local laws will decide what you have to use if you want to do it right. Once you start comparing what it costs to do it some other way, buildng a lift station makes quite a bit of sense.

Eddie
 
   / Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options? #17  
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Clivus Multrum is a type of composting system. Don't know if it's the same or different than the previous links.

OTOH, a buddy has one of those sewage pumps on a second downstairs outdoors bathroom. It mostly gets used for parties and is still working after 5 (or more) years. And I can't even imagine what liquored up women throw down a toilet. Sober ones too for that matter.

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   / Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options? #18  
I'm not sure a sewage pump is made to pump 200' uphill. There would be a lot of material left in the line that would drain back to the pit, I don't think they generally have a check valve type set up on them.

I have a lift pump in my basement for the bathroom and the laundry. It has a check valve on it.

It doesn't seem like the sump and pump really cost that much compared the rest of our remodel. I think it may have added $500 installed.
 
   / Plumbing in shop.. but septic is "uphill from there".. options? #20  
Use a pit with a ejector pump. This is very common around lakes here in MN. It is called a force main. Basically you are forcing the poo. Use extra water since you will not have a shower to help out. Adjust your toilet to full tank for flush
 

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