Comments on Kubota's engineering

[some zilch]

I would like to know why my $25,000 plus cabbed B3030 came with no 12-volt accessory plug, no interior light, and needed wheel spacers to attach chains to the rear turf wheels.

its a tractor, not a mini-van. its a utilitarian tool. also, its not like most owners of these little tractors are going to be sitting in it 8+ hours a day, 5-6 days a weeks. most of the fairly modern heavy machinery i work on does not have a 12v accessory plug, though most have an interior light. we have brand new 2012 dump trucks that dont have 12v accessory plugs..........

 

[powerpace]

HST Problems. I have a 2005 BX23 that has had two transmission failures. The first failure was at 176 hrs and the one yesterday was 89 hours later.

I was using the backhoe for approximately an hour when I return to the storage area and park the tractor outside. At that point everything seemed to be working fine.

After about 4 hrs I went out to park the tractor in the pole barn and experienced problems with the engine wanting to stall when engaging the directional petal. I then checked fluid levels and found everything to be OK.

I then tried again going forward and reverse experencing the same problem. Engine even wanted to stall when the transmission was in the neutral position and engaging the directional petal.

Does anyone have ideas what is causing these failures.

As for the stalling I would check fuel flow. Possibly junk in the tank or plugged filter. Also it's pretty remote but check your safeties for a grounded short problem.

The transmission failures need more explaining. Two in that short of time would lean toward operation issues. Is the Clutch pedal adjusted correctly?
I have seen operators rest their foot on the clutch and operate the HST pedal at the same time.

 

[tcartwri]

...with the engine wanting to stall when engaging the directional petal....I then tried again going forward and reverse experencing the same problem. Engine even wanted to stall when the transmission was in the neutral position and engaging the directional petal.

As was said previously, this sounds like an electrical fault with your safety switches.

I had one instance with my Bobcat, where the machine shut off when it was completely locked out and stood to leave the seat. Could not reproduce it, nor has it happened again. I put it down to an open switch.

 

[AStanton]

its a tractor, not a mini-van. its a utilitarian tool. also, its not like most owners of these little tractors are going to be sitting in it 8+ hours a day, 5-6 days a weeks. most of the fairly modern heavy machinery i work on does not have a 12v accessory plug, though most have an interior light. we have brand new 2012 dump trucks that dont have 12v accessory plugs..........

I ended up doing what Kubota didn't do, I installed a 12-volt plug myself. It cost me a whopping $9.99 at my local Radio Shack. If you tell me where you live, I can direct you to the local Radio Shack in your neighborhood. You will then be able to purchase one for your new 2012 truck. They only come in one color--black.

 

[Texas Fella]

Man, all I have got to say is some of you guys sure sound piss for people with new tractors! Where I come from, if we want something built a certian way or want it to have a certian thing on it, we make sure it is there BEFORE we buy the product. A company can not anticipate every detail that a customer wants before hand, and just because a few people want it, that does not mean that everyone else is willing to pay more to get it. Everything you add cost money. It is not just buying the part, it is installing it on the line, keeping parts stock, changing wiring harness, safety testing, etc. If there was a plug, some people would gripe it stayed on all the time (without the key) and some would gripe if it was switched with the key. Can't keep everybody happy. Just a few thoughts.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

As for the stalling I would check fuel flow. Possibly junk in the tank or plugged filter. Also it's pretty remote but check your safeties for a grounded short problem.

The transmission failures need more explaining. Two in that short of time would lean toward operation issues. Is the Clutch pedal adjusted correctly?
I have seen operators rest their foot on the clutch and operate the HST pedal at the same time.

BXs don't have a foot clutch. HST and brake is all there is.

 

[murphy1244]

its a tractor, not a mini-van. its a utilitarian tool. also, its not like most owners of these little tractors are going to be sitting in it 8+ hours a day, 5-6 days a weeks. most of the fairly modern heavy machinery i work on does not have a 12v accessory plug, though most have an interior light. we have brand new 2012 dump trucks that dont have 12v accessory plugs..........

My lawn mower has a 12 volt out!!!! LOls

 

[countryboycansurvive]

I'm an engineer and though I don't design tractors, I do design custom machines for factories. Every machine design is a triple balancing act between functionality, reliability and cost.

 

[magicheater]

I'm an engineer and though I don't design tractors, I do design custom machines for factories. Every machine design is a triple balancing act between functionality, reliability and cost.

Man, all I have got to say is some of you guys sure sound piss for people with new tractors! Where I come from, if we want something built a certian way or want it to have a certian thing on it, we make sure it is there BEFORE we buy the product. A company can not anticipate every detail that a customer wants before hand, and just because a few people want it, that does not mean that everyone else is willing to pay more to get it. Everything you add cost money. It is not just buying the part, it is installing it on the line, keeping parts stock, changing wiring harness, safety testing, etc. If there was a plug, some people would gripe it stayed on all the time (without the key) and some would gripe if it was switched with the key. Can't keep everybody happy. Just a few thoughts.

Compare, compare, compare, then buy and still ...Can't keep everybody happy. Guess they have not made the perfect tractor yet. If a cup holder/ electrical outlet makes or breaks a deal then I am way lost on this.

 

[slowzuki]

I know part of that answer I think, turf tires usually don't need track width adjustment like ar tires as you don't plow with turfs, so one piece rims are used to cut some of the cost.

The other part of that is there is a max width that the axles are design for, and the one that surprised me, the rops is designed for. Follow me on that, with loaded tires, the wider you set them out, the bigger the loads on the rops when it does go over. For my cabbed L5030, you aren't supposed to load the tires as it exceeds the cab rops design. The open station tractor doesn't have the same limitation.

I would like to know why my $25,000 plus cabbed B3030 came with no 12-volt accessory plug, no interior light, and needed wheel spacers to attach chains to the rear turf wheels.