mostly_gas
Super Member
Not to beat you up, but I put my 1700 Ford in neutral and push it, especially during maintenance or 3PH implement change-out. As I read your definition it is a lawn tractor, but I think most people would call it a cut.
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CompactTractorFan
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schmism
Super Member
3pt with PTO would be a start for diffrence between tractor and lawnmower.
but really its just a name. Im one of the guilty ones of calling the BX owners (Kubota's SCUT) beefed up lawn mowers.
If you take a lawnmower and put a PTO on it does it make it a tractor?.
How about construction?
no "frame"... castiron engine bolted to a cast iron gear box/rear end, speak in terms of "splitting" the halves.... = tractor
Stamped sheetmetal "frame" = lawnmower
This means you've effectively split the class by size/weight/capability and also why one manufactures SCUT may be considered a tractor (due to construction type) vs another manufactures which did just what i mentioned above, bolt a PTO on the rear of a "lawn mower"
btw for everyone that thinks any "lawnmower" that doesnt have a PTO should be called a tractor, then yes you have to include ZTR's in that group also because at that point a ZTR can do everything a "riding lawn mower" can. And at that point, you've slid so far down the slope that i really cant take your definition seriously anymore :-D
oh and to muddy the waters more, Im a big fan of early Gravely walk behind TRACTORS. L series etc. Later gravely created a 4 wheel riding version that used the same gear driven body as some of the older walk behinds. You could also get a front mounted PTO to hang your old L series impliments off of. So what do you call that? With out the PTO its shure looks and smells like a lawnmower, but with a front mount pto, your back in the tractor realm...
In short, no easy answers.
but really its just a name. Im one of the guilty ones of calling the BX owners (Kubota's SCUT) beefed up lawn mowers.
If you take a lawnmower and put a PTO on it does it make it a tractor?.
How about construction?
no "frame"... castiron engine bolted to a cast iron gear box/rear end, speak in terms of "splitting" the halves.... = tractor
Stamped sheetmetal "frame" = lawnmower
This means you've effectively split the class by size/weight/capability and also why one manufactures SCUT may be considered a tractor (due to construction type) vs another manufactures which did just what i mentioned above, bolt a PTO on the rear of a "lawn mower"
btw for everyone that thinks any "lawnmower" that doesnt have a PTO should be called a tractor, then yes you have to include ZTR's in that group also because at that point a ZTR can do everything a "riding lawn mower" can. And at that point, you've slid so far down the slope that i really cant take your definition seriously anymore :-D
oh and to muddy the waters more, Im a big fan of early Gravely walk behind TRACTORS. L series etc. Later gravely created a 4 wheel riding version that used the same gear driven body as some of the older walk behinds. You could also get a front mounted PTO to hang your old L series impliments off of. So what do you call that? With out the PTO its shure looks and smells like a lawnmower, but with a front mount pto, your back in the tractor realm...
In short, no easy answers.
NHmitch
Platinum Member
Is that a police tractor???????
Sorry, not trying to hijack this thread, but it is a police tractor, they used it in the UK for by a police force to highlight their fight against agricultural crime. The say that they can use it in a natural disaster. I could see that. Very interesting tractor. It's a John Deere. They car it a "Crop" car.
Crop car: police tractor is latest in £1m of 'gimmicks’ - Telegraph
This video is from another area also that made a police tractor:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJohiShj6cU]Police tractor Zetor Proxima Dorset - YouTube[/ame]
Other police tractors:
RaydaKub
Veteran Member
I've got this cartoon bubble going of some guy riding this, trying to flag people down for speeding... :laughing:
mostly_gas
Super Member
:laughing::thumbsup:
NHmitch
Platinum Member
Lol, as embarrassing as it may be, I had to ride a police bike for a few years and try stopping a car on that. They actually give you lights and a siren. I was always to embarrassed to try. Not as bad as some cities that make you ride a segway as a cop. But, hey, how many jobs do you get to ride a mountain bike at work, and get paid. And, no I didn't eat donuts while on the bike....I put them in my camel back, lol..
Not as embarrassing as this, it should be illegal to paint a tractor certain colors. I don't think this one was for a cause either;
evan price
Silver Member
I'd say any machine that cuts grass and can't do anything else is a lawn mower. I never saw a ZTR with a snow plow or a tiller, the same goes for those gang mowers at golf courses. Lawn mowers cut grass and can't do anything else without serious modifications.
RaydaKub
Veteran Member
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo3ZC3rdJZc]Dixie Chopper Snow Thrower - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsvfCoTDU8o]Ariens 2148 Zoom Zero Turn with Snow Blower/Thrower in North Dakota 2004 Video - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEnHRzf4JQ]Zero Turn Snow Plow on eXmark ZTR Mower by Mibar Products. - YouTube[/ame]
OK, I haven't found a tiller, splitter, or chipper yet...
JohninCT
Platinum Member
NHmitch said:
My wife and daughters disagree. They say Barbie needs HER tractor too.