Oil & Fuel farm or road diesel?

[/pine]

So by your line of reasoning, anyone can make any claim. And questioning said claims is not allowed, because this is the internet.

NO...that is not what I said...I said INTERNET MESSAGE BOARDS are not clearing houses for absolute facts...When seeking bonafide information on the Internet the first thing you need to learn is to discern.

What you are calling "claims" are generally personal observations or experience which are not necessarily universal...

You can claim or question anything you want...but I doubt I'll be reading it...

 

[charleyfarmall]

It may depend on where you live at the moment as there is a transition going on. Here all the fuel is ULSD. I use #2 and have it delivered in bulk. I run a pump and filter off the tank to fill the tractor.

 

[SantasForest]

Love when posts go this route...started reading here to learn a little about red vs. not and instead we're arguing about the proper way to argue....sweet, the US government has invaded my tractor forum.. :thumbsup:

 

[WayneJessie]

The offroad fuel down there may be crap, but up here is the same fuel, but the stuff with the dye added costs $0.14/L $0.63/gallon less then the on road fuel, just road tax. It is all ULSD up here, on or off road.

My post about spotty fuel quality was not to insinuate that all off-road fuel is crap. I'm simply stating what we have experienced. I don't think anyone would intentionally put bad fuel in an expensive piece of equipment but it's not quite that simple when you pull up to the pump in a tractor or combine and just start pumping. It never fails that regardless of the board you post on there's someone that wants pictures and prints and blood samples before they'll accept anything. I will however be glad to ship my next used fuel filter to him if he'll pay shipping.

 

[MHarryE]

By law, currently all off-road and on-road diesel must be Ultra Low Sulfur. Currently the law says the highway past my place has a 55 mph limit but probably half the drivers break that law. The other half are intoxicated or on drugs and don't know. So it follows that some suppliers are ignoring the law (know a way to avoid detection) and are supplying inferior fuel. It also follows that if they have inferior fuel, they stand less of a chance getting caught selling it to off-road users than selling it to on-highway users where there are checks not only whether the driver is using dyed fuel but also the fuel meets specs. Having had enormous amounts of warranty failure data to examine and reports that I could read regarding the failed pumps, I could pick out some areas of the USA that have the worst fuel in the world based on fuel pump failure analysis. I am talking about 10 times failure rate differences. Surely the on-highway truck companies would not let the fuel distributors get away with this although I was talking with a colleague at a on-highway truck supplier and asked why we don't have more diesel cars in the USA because the fuel economy and drive ability is so much improved over gasoline engines. He said that USA diesel can, in some places, be so bad that the car companies would not be able to put up with the system failures and resultant bad publicity.

 

[Monster5601]

http://www.chevronwithtechron.com/products/documents/Diesel_Fuel_Tech_Review.pdf

Quite long but it is all in there, happy reading.

All what is in there?

I read the document you posted the link to and the closes I could find to support your claims is this:

"The straight-run diesel may be acceptable as is, or may need minor upgrading for use in diesel fuel prepared for off-road use." (Page 29, paragraph 4).

I think you are just chatting about something you don't have any first hand knowledge of and because you are backed into a corner, you posted a link to a document you hope no one would read.

 

[Monster5601]

Do you really want the FACTS to interfere with this stimulating discussion?

I guess not. If we got the facts there would be nothing to discuss.

 

[Deano]

Love when posts go this route...started reading here to learn a little about red vs. not and instead we're arguing about the proper way to argue....sweet, the US government has invaded my tractor forum.. :thumbsup:

:drink:

 

[WayneJessie]

By law, currently all off-road and on-road diesel must be Ultra Low Sulfur. Currently the law says the highway past my place has a 55 mph limit but probably half the drivers break that law. The other half are intoxicated or on drugs and don't know. So it follows that some suppliers are ignoring the law (know a way to avoid detection) and are supplying inferior fuel. It also follows that if they have inferior fuel, they stand less of a chance getting caught selling it to off-road users than selling it to on-highway users where there are checks not only whether the driver is using dyed fuel but also the fuel meets specs. Having had enormous amounts of warranty failure data to examine and reports that I could read regarding the failed pumps, I could pick out some areas of the USA that have the worst fuel in the world based on fuel pump failure analysis. I am talking about 10 times failure rate differences. Surely the on-highway truck companies would not let the fuel distributors get away with this although I was talking with a colleague at a on-highway truck supplier and asked why we don't have more diesel cars in the USA because the fuel economy and drive ability is so much improved over gasoline engines. He said that USA diesel can, in some places, be so bad that the car companies would not be able to put up with the system failures and resultant bad publicity.

You said it better than I could.

 

[Lindsey]

all I can get here is road diesel .