Any new JD Rumors or Info on New Equipment?

[Martian]

They both are quick attach, the difference is the CX has spring loaded latches for the quick attach and the parking stand where the X uses pins to secure the loader and no parking stand.

Both the 200CX and 200X can be attached and detached, just like the 300CX and 300X can be attached and detached - the CX versions of the loaders are just much quicker doing it, hence quick attach

 

[Johndeere3720]

Well... We were told that machines would not be re-named to the new system unless there were major changes to said equipment. I guess T4 engines in the 2x20 Series qualify. The "new 2R" series is the same as the "old 2x20" series, other than the tier of the engine. There will be two tractors next year, the 2025R and 2032R. For the poster who just signed a deal on a 2720 you did well - the price increase for the new 2032R is said to be quite substantial.

The "new" 1025R (replacing the 1026R) and 2025R will both be under the 25hp rating therefore not having a big price increase like the 2032R. Also the 200X loader will be discontinued and the 200CX will now be called the H130.

All new X700's and Z900's are coming as well as the 4-Seat Gator 825i-S4 / 855D-S4 with standard EPAS (Electronic Power Assist Steering) RSX850i's are now showing up at dealerships as well. (We got two this morning)

5E Utility Tractors will now have Cab or OOS available throughout the lineup from 55hp up (5045E will be OOS only) so you can now get a cab 55, 65 or 75hp or an OOS 83, 93 or 101hp. The "Limited" designation will go away with this change. No HST or eHydro available though, for those of you that want it.

Very interesting.:thumbsup: Looks like the picture I made must be close, but I was off on the model number.:laughing: So basically, the 2320 will be no more and the 2025R will replace the 2520?

 

[jd670]

Wonder when they will start showing up at the dealers.

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

So I wonder what the new number will be for the 270 hoe? Oh thats right they still haven't come out with it yet...

 

[Engine_Tech]

Ooops! Glad you brought that up - no more loaders for the X700 Series. I can't believe I forgot that one!

Just a question on this. I had heard zero loader ever due to the tractor frame changes, and more importantly, the existance of the 1-series. But, some others had heard that there may be one in a few years. How firm was the "no loader"?

Personally, I can't see JD designing a loader for these X7's today with the 1023E/1025R out there.

Thanks!

 

[Johndeere3720]

Just a question on this. I had heard zero loader ever due to the tractor frame changes, and more importantly, the existance of the 1-series. But, some others had heard that there may be one in a few years. How firm was the "no loader"?

Personally, I can't see JD designing a loader for these X7's today with the 1023E/1025R out there.

Thanks!

Deere figures that it will get people to jump up to a machine with ROPS since they aren't available on the X700's. It will both make operating a Deere FEL safer on a small tractor and it will get their customers to buy a bigger unit at the same time.

 

[bud4410]

hi bleedgreen, any info on the "all new" Z900 series? thanks..............bud

 

[vtsnowedin]

5E Utility Tractors will now have Cab or OOS available throughout the lineup from 55hp up (5045E will be OOS only) so you can now get a cab 55, 65 or 75hp or an OOS 83, 93 or 101hp. The "Limited" designation will go away with this change. No HST or eHydro available though, for those of you that want it.

I am not going to buy another 5045E of course but I have to ask why a cab that will fit on a 5055E will not fit on a 5045E? And what the devil does OOS stand for?

 

[PoorPlowboy]

I am not going to buy another 5045E of course but I have to ask why a cab that will fit on a 5055E will not fit on a 5045E? And what the devil does OOS stand for?

Not sure on the cab, but OOS is open operator station.

 

[vtsnowedin]

Not sure on the cab, but OOS is open operator station.

Douh :ashamed:

 

[ctlguy]

The cab issue could just be that they feel there is enough product overlap for cab options now between 4x20 and 5E series units and don't have the desire to offer it as an option. Or they believe the take rate would be two low to offer yet another base machine option.

 

[vtsnowedin]

The cab issue could just be that they feel there is enough product overlap for cab options now between 4x20 and 5E series units and don't have the desire to offer it as an option. Or they believe the take rate would be two low to offer yet another base machine option.

That is very possible but that does not answer my question. As far as I know (very limited knowledge I will admit) the only difference between a 5045E and a 5055E or 5075E etc. is the injector pump settings ,the size of the turbo charger and the size of the stock rear tires. All the rest is the same. Block , tranny. and rear end castings , hood and fenders etc. all the same. So if they choose to make a cab that fits on a 5055e or d what part won't fit on a 5045E or d ? Just asking.

 

[jd670]

Maybe JD feels that the extra weight of the cab would be too much on the 5045's engine. Just my guess.

 

[vtsnowedin]

That is very plausible and you couldn't just compensate by leaving the rears unloaded. It would raise your center of gravity too much especially if you had the tires set in close. Dose a cab really waste ten horsepower?

 

[jd670]

Not sure. From reading this forum on the 3000twenty series cabbed tractors, everyone was suggesting getting the 3520 over the 3320 because of the horsepower difference with the weight of the cab. I believe posters were saying that running heat or a/c bogged the engine on the 3320 too easily while doing work. There's only a 5hp difference between those two tractors. Maybe that was the train of thought with the 5045 over the 5055.

 

[Engine_Tech]

A/C does suck a lot of HP, and knowing that many customers would automatically jump up to the larger tractor I'd think.

 

[vtsnowedin]

AHH yes the old lure them in with a cost efficient item built to a price point, then ease them over to the loaded plushy model that has much higher profit margins on the accessories then were in the base machine. Thats why I had to wait for a 45E to be shipped from India as no one stocked something they didn't expect to sell here without a fight. Just like trying to find a full sized 2WD pickup with a standard tranny in VT. Last one I bought I had to have trucked up from New Jersey as the dealer told me he never ordered any base trucks because he would have to " eat it."

 

[BleedGreen]

I am not going to buy another 5045E of course but I have to ask why a cab that will fit on a 5055E will not fit on a 5045E? And what the devil does OOS stand for?

It is not that it wont fit - just that Deere doesnt see much of a take rate on the 45hp with the Cab.

 

[BleedGreen]

Both the 200CX and 200X can be attached and detached, just like the 300CX and 300X can be attached and detached - the CX versions of the loaders are just much quicker doing it, hence quick attach

True for the 200 Series loaders but not the 300 Series. 300X and 300CX are both full quick attach but the CX is the commercial duty model with higher lift capacity and lift height. 400X and 400CX are the same quick attach but 400CX is Mechanical Self Leveling

 

[BleedGreen]

Will the H130 loader continue to be compatible with the 2720? I just purchased a 2720 a few months ago and I didn't buy a loader as I figured I could always get one down the road if I needed it. Hopefully that is still true.

It is just the 200CX with a new sticker on it. No actual changes from the 2x20 Series to new 2 Series other than Tier of engine. You should have no problem at all getting a loader down the road.