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next delema is the fuel filter system. wen i got ahold of the tractor i found the fuel filter had been bypassed, dirt dobbers had made there mudd mounds in the fuel inlet n outlet sides of the unit. so i took it off, cleaned it all up, bot a new filter, put it in and plumbed it ryt. wen i went to fire up the tractor it took a lilbit but it did fire up.
wouldnt stay runnin tho. acted like it was starvin fur fuel. wich i found it wuz. i disconnected the filter n ran it like i found it. fuel tank to fuel pump. no filter. n it fired up n ran fine. i need to know wut those 2 bolt like things are on the filter housing. i no they godda be some sort of adjustment to the fuel filter.
i did take em all apart n clean it up. i ran my weldin tip cleaner thru the lil holes n made sure there clear. thats it tho.
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wouldnt stay runnin tho. acted like it was starvin fur fuel. wich i found it wuz. i disconnected the filter n ran it like i found it. fuel tank to fuel pump. no filter. n it fired up n ran fine. i need to know wut those 2 bolt like things are on the filter housing. i no they godda be some sort of adjustment to the fuel filter.
i did take em all apart n clean it up. i ran my weldin tip cleaner thru the lil holes n made sure there clear. thats it tho.
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JC-jetro
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next delema is the fuel filter system. wen i got ahold of the tractor i found the fuel filter had been bypassed, dirt dobbers had made there mudd mounds in the fuel inlet n outlet sides of the unit. so i took it off, cleaned it all up, bot a new filter, put it in and plumbed it ryt. wen i went to fire up the tractor it took a lilbit but it did fire up.
wouldnt stay runnin tho. acted like it was starvin fur fuel. wich i found it wuz. i disconnected the filter n ran it like i found it. fuel tank to fuel pump. no filter. n it fired up n ran fine. i need to know wut those 2 bolt like things are on the filter housing. i no they godda be some sort of adjustment to the fuel filter.
i did take em all apart n clean it up. i ran my weldin tip cleaner thru the lil holes n made sure there clear. thats it tho.
okay ... one thing at a time, On the filter. There is nottin wrong with your filter. It is doing exactly what is supposed to do. The screen mesh is not a throwaway filter unless is rusted or busted. The screen media is a very good quality SS and very fine. All you need to clean it is a an old toothbrush and a bit of diesel fuel in a small plastic bucket or clean paint tray I used. If the filter does not arrest the particulates then they end up going thru gears in the hyd pump and can chew it up bad. you just don't want to go there. I don't know how much you paid for the tractor as you might spend about the same to buy a salvage one. as long as the pump gears are not damaged bad they can be overhauled under $60. You need to get all the crud out. Empty the hyd fuel in a clean 5 gall bucket ans use a screen sieve to get the major stuff out and reused the oil for several oil changes so slowly you get the junk out. I hate to out solvent and cleaner in the hyd system as I think they might cause damage to the seal and damage the hyd pump also. Getting a new screen ain't gonna help none, got to get the crud out.
on the fuel, close the fuel valve on the bottom of the fuel tank, then remove inlet fuel pipe to the filter assembly. make sure to get a clean plastic cup and then open the valve with the rubber hose emptying in to the cup. see if you can get a steady stream of fuel. if not then you have junk build up in the bottom of the tank or inlet clogged up. On mine I had a piece of rubber from the fuel cap plugging the outlet from the tank. Taking the tank off is easy and take two 10 mm nut to do so. You can blow some air using nozzle from out let side of the tank thru rubber hose and it can push the crud back in to the tank that might settle on the bottom. Bottom inlet is proud of the bottom by 1/4" or so. I used a brass brush attached to a rod and try to clean up the bottom of the tank, sloshed the diesel around and dump the fuel in to a bucket, bet ya you'll find contaminant there. if you have flow then when changing the fuel filter you got air in to the injector pump, need to crack open fuel line to the injector a hair and crank a few times to bleed the air out. when you no longer see bubble coming ot then tighten the nuts and try to start the tractor.
Report and we'll try to help. I wonderd what type of pickle you find yourself in
but I'm sure you'll manage to whip it to shape.JC,
Ps. just looked at your second filter picture after you corrected the early by-pass surgery. what happened to the screws on the filter. they need to be there so you can bleed the air our out of the fuel filter assembly. Did you plug them?
okay ... one thing at a time, On the filter. There is nottin wrong with your filter. It is doing exactly what is supposed to do. The screen mesh is not a throwaway filter unless is rusted or busted. The screen media is a very good quality SS and very fine. All you need to clean it is a an old toothbrush and a bit of diesel fuel in a small plastic bucket or clean paint tray I used. If the filter does not arrest the particulates then they end up going thru gears in the hyd pump and can chew it up bad. you just don't want to go there. I don't know how much you paid for the tractor as you might spend about the same to buy a salvage one.
i didnt think the filter was a throw away, it's made zactly like u sed. very well made mesh. i did clean it with deisel the first time and the second time i hadda drain the system. i sure found alot of wut looked like TP thru out it. wen i cleaned the filter n filled it with fuel while cleanin it. it drained n seeped out very slowly. behind the mesh it's fiber filled. i have no idea if it's sposta flow thru fast or slow. i simple dunno. wen i rinsed all the crud out via the filter acess, used a bottle brush n reached way in there. out *** a cuple metal particles. not shavings, tiny chunks of casting, no steel from gears tho. i no my metals. i was married to a metallurgist for 23 yrs. titanium factory. fasinating. im also a blacksmith. i inspected the pieces very closely, they was definatley casting, flash. no biggy.
as for how much i paid for the tractor. my first posting splains that. butt, i'll say again. my Pa passed away yr ago cumin up this nov. im now livin on the bout 10 acres. wen my pa passed a 2nd cuzzin came n stole the tractor. amongst. n i got it all back in court. dumbasses. u cant be givin a piece of colateral.
anyways: they sabatached it. best as a dumbass drunk that aint never seen the big city can. wen i got it back i drained the fluids. got lots of pics of it as it's drainin. took samples of wutever it wuz i took oudda there. the system holds im told 5.8 gals. i drained out pert neer 9gals. makin them lazy dumbass drunks. to lazy ta drain a lilbit before addin to it. lilredfoxes are smart.
my pa was a heavy machinery operator n machanic. he could tinker anything, thats were i god it from. he wuz extremely **** bout how his machinery was kept. he kept up maintance on everything he owed. he didnt by this tractor new tho. bot it from a frend, however, he had been doin the maintance on it fur his frend fur yrs. i.e. this same tractor. i called around n aint been able ta find a hydraulic/tranny filter fur it tho. i thot maybe... ok, so im wishing really hard it's the filter. i sure do appriciate all ur guidance thats fur sure... i dunno wud id do without U.
i hope that helps u help me.
i didnt think the filter was a throw away, it's made zactly like u sed. very well made mesh. i did clean it with deisel the first time and the second time i hadda drain the system. i sure found alot of wut looked like TP thru out it. wen i cleaned the filter n filled it with fuel while cleanin it. it drained n seeped out very slowly. behind the mesh it's fiber filled. i have no idea if it's sposta flow thru fast or slow. i simple dunno. wen i rinsed all the crud out via the filter acess, used a bottle brush n reached way in there. out *** a cuple metal particles. not shavings, tiny chunks of casting, no steel from gears tho. i no my metals. i was married to a metallurgist for 23 yrs. titanium factory. fasinating. im also a blacksmith. i inspected the pieces very closely, they was definatley casting, flash. no biggy.
as for how much i paid for the tractor. my first posting splains that. butt, i'll say again. my Pa passed away yr ago cumin up this nov. im now livin on the bout 10 acres. wen my pa passed a 2nd cuzzin came n stole the tractor. amongst. n i got it all back in court. dumbasses. u cant be givin a piece of colateral.
anyways: they sabatached it. best as a dumbass drunk that aint never seen the big city can. wen i got it back i drained the fluids. got lots of pics of it as it's drainin. took samples of wutever it wuz i took oudda there. the system holds im told 5.8 gals. i drained out pert neer 9gals. makin them lazy dumbass drunks. to lazy ta drain a lilbit before addin to it. lilredfoxes are smart.
my pa was a heavy machinery operator n machanic. he could tinker anything, thats were i god it from. he wuz extremely **** bout how his machinery was kept. he kept up maintance on everything he owed. he didnt by this tractor new tho. bot it from a frend, however, he had been doin the maintance on it fur his frend fur yrs. i.e. this same tractor. i called around n aint been able ta find a hydraulic/tranny filter fur it tho. i thot maybe... ok, so im wishing really hard it's the filter. i sure do appriciate all ur guidance thats fur sure... i dunno wud id do without U.
i hope that helps u help me.
You need to get all the crud out. Empty the hyd fuel in a clean 5 gall bucket ans use a screen sieve to get the major stuff out and reused the oil for several oil changes so slowly you get the junk out. I hate to out solvent and cleaner in the hyd system as I think they might cause damage to the seal and damage the hyd pump also. Getting a new screen ain't gonna help none, got to get the crud out.
thats som nasty crud. i aint seen nuttin like that before. like i sed, looks like toilet paper. ive drained the fluid 3 times now. but only this last time did i flush it like u sed. i flushed it 4 times using n re-using, while strainin each time a gallon of desiel. i rocked the tractor back n forth to git the max out. i stuffed half a t-shirt up in there n moved it round gittin all i can git. n flushed it again. then i poored bout half gal of fluid back in there n rocked it again n then drained that out. then i filled it with fluid again n fired it up headed out to the pasture. i got lift up n down n wutnot long nuff ta drive bout 5 acres cross the pasture n *** back. lost life wen i got back. wen i got lift it dont seep or loose any lift. it'll sit there fur days holdin up the hog.
thats som nasty crud. i aint seen nuttin like that before. like i sed, looks like toilet paper. ive drained the fluid 3 times now. but only this last time did i flush it like u sed. i flushed it 4 times using n re-using, while strainin each time a gallon of desiel. i rocked the tractor back n forth to git the max out. i stuffed half a t-shirt up in there n moved it round gittin all i can git. n flushed it again. then i poored bout half gal of fluid back in there n rocked it again n then drained that out. then i filled it with fluid again n fired it up headed out to the pasture. i got lift up n down n wutnot long nuff ta drive bout 5 acres cross the pasture n *** back. lost life wen i got back. wen i got lift it dont seep or loose any lift. it'll sit there fur days holdin up the hog.
Ps. just looked at your second filter picture after you corrected the early by-pass surgery. what happened to the screws on the filter. they need to be there so you can bleed the air our out of the fuel filter assembly. Did you plug them?
the pic with em out is wen i wuz pullin it to clean it up. the inlet n outlet barbs had dobber dung in em. the other pic is after i cleaned it up n put it back together. u sed a air pocket huh. i think ur sayin them screws help bleed the filter of an air pocket? wait. were's the injector located? i no the fuel lines run into wut i was told is the fuel pump. n costs like 500 bux to have it rebuilt if crud frum the tank gits in it.. im gunna drain the tank n toss sum metal in there n make sure aint no crud in there. i didnt see any wen the tank wuz empty tho. it runs fine bypassin the filter. so the flow comin frum the tank is fine. safer ta clean it out tho. my 1946 dodge pickup kept actin like it wuz runnin oudda gas. so i took a jar of gas n stuck in on the floorboard, i took the fuel line frum the tank put it into the jar. n ran it like that furra while. then I dropped the tank n cleaned it up. rolled metal chunks all round inside n put it back on. it ran fur bout a mile. then the same dagum thing. again i dropped the tank. after much :mur: finally i found a piece of solid oak bout 12" long strateegically stuck up in the pickup tube. pulled it out n wah-lah. my ol pickup wuz pickin up again. i do luv the ol stuff.
the pic with em out is wen i wuz pullin it to clean it up. the inlet n outlet barbs had dobber dung in em. the other pic is after i cleaned it up n put it back together. u sed a air pocket huh. i think ur sayin them screws help bleed the filter of an air pocket? wait. were's the injector located? i no the fuel lines run into wut i was told is the fuel pump. n costs like 500 bux to have it rebuilt if crud frum the tank gits in it.. im gunna drain the tank n toss sum metal in there n make sure aint no crud in there. i didnt see any wen the tank wuz empty tho. it runs fine bypassin the filter. so the flow comin frum the tank is fine. safer ta clean it out tho. my 1946 dodge pickup kept actin like it wuz runnin oudda gas. so i took a jar of gas n stuck in on the floorboard, i took the fuel line frum the tank put it into the jar. n ran it like that furra while. then I dropped the tank n cleaned it up. rolled metal chunks all round inside n put it back on. it ran fur bout a mile. then the same dagum thing. again i dropped the tank. after much :mur: finally i found a piece of solid oak bout 12" long strateegically stuck up in the pickup tube. pulled it out n wah-lah. my ol pickup wuz pickin up again. i do luv the ol stuff.
texasjohn
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Lilredfox, am enjoying your detailed description of your problem and how you are addressing it...good work.
You are going in the right direction, continue to clean out hydraulic sump and gear area and filter...seems it will take a while, but you simply have to be winning.
Congrats on mastering how to post photos.
Next on your list of things to learn is how to "reply with quote".....look at the bar along the bottom of a post...next to the REPLY is REPLY WITH QUOTE. Try using that on one of your replies....you can bold the item you want to focus on for emphasis in your reply.
You are going in the right direction, continue to clean out hydraulic sump and gear area and filter...seems it will take a while, but you simply have to be winning.
Congrats on mastering how to post photos.
Next on your list of things to learn is how to "reply with quote".....look at the bar along the bottom of a post...next to the REPLY is REPLY WITH QUOTE. Try using that on one of your replies....you can bold the item you want to focus on for emphasis in your reply.
Lilredfox, am enjoying your detailed description of your problem and how you are addressing it...good work.
awwwh. thanks John. i godda atta girl. :cloud9: Gosh, with Pa passin n all, it's me given her adda girls... HI! imma Gemini. gigl n grin.
cant is not in my vocabulary, definatly nodda option. n I didnt git me this far bein stupit. i no wen i need a man. thanks ta u guys im winning this war faster than i would be fightin it myself.
I no not wut i do, but by golly im doin.
awwwh. thanks John. i godda atta girl. :cloud9: Gosh, with Pa passin n all, it's me given her adda girls... HI! imma Gemini. gigl n grin.
cant is not in my vocabulary, definatly nodda option. n I didnt git me this far bein stupit. i no wen i need a man. thanks ta u guys im winning this war faster than i would be fightin it myself.
I no not wut i do, but by golly im doin.
ljohnson778
Platinum Member
Guys, really? "She" can spell leprechaun, but can't spell was(wuz)... Don't want to be mean, but something ain't right here...