Loaded Rear Tires Without Loader

[LD1]

there are still instances that a tire can be unloaded even without a loader

Isnt that the point of loading them then......to minimize the chance of that hapening

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Loading any tire (front or back) helps when the weight is needed and hurts when it is not needed.

Bush hogging in swampy areas I can tell you the weight is NOT a plus but it is a HUGE plus across the road in the hills. That is with no FEL mounted in both chases.

Since getting the old JD 310B backhoe pulling out the heavy MF 265 is a non issue when stuck so the filled tires plus massive wheel weights are an all around plus for us. It really lowers the center of gravity.l

If want wants SOME weight they can be filled to the level to give that weight. Half filled tires give some weight and greatly lower the center of gravity when like half full.

 

[ovrszd]

I actually had time this morning to work on the tractor. I managed to load both rear tires without any problem. Used a old Milton adapter we had from years ago and a hand transfer pump for the antifreeze. Went well and the overall result was as expected ,Great! I done a little "boxblading" and was surprised at how much more traction I had than previously(in 2wd). Overall I'm happy.

I got into this conversation late, but I was going to suggest antifreeze. I use Windshield Washer fluid. I paid $220 for 165 gallons. That's my argument against cast weights. Would have cost me over $1000 to buy that many weights.

People say they prefer weights over fluid so they can lighten up if needed. I don't know many people who will wrestle a 100+ pound cast weight on and off when they change tasks with the tractor.

I even run fluid in the rears of my JD2210 and it only does lawn mowing and snow pushing. Makes the tractor much more stable, even with only 80lbs in each tire.

Glad it all worked out for ya.

 

[kubotacres]

I got into this conversation late, but I was going to suggest antifreeze. I use Windshield Washer fluid. I paid $220 for 165 gallons. That's my argument against cast weights. Would have cost me over $1000 to buy that many weights.

People say they prefer weights over fluid so they can lighten up if needed. I don't know many people who will wrestle a 100+ pound cast weight on and off when they change tasks with the tractor.

I even run fluid in the rears of my JD2210 and it only does lawn mowing and snow pushing. Makes the tractor much more stable, even with only 80lbs in each tire.

Glad it all worked out for ya.

Considering it RARELY gets below 32 Deg here in Louisiana, most people never run any type of freeze preventor in their loaded tires. I threw 1/2 Gallon in each side, and that will be plenty for the few Cold mornings we have here that might slip past the freezing mark.

 

[EE_Bota]

I actually had time this morning to work on the tractor. I managed to load both rear tires without any problem. Used a old Milton adapter we had from years ago and a hand transfer pump for the antifreeze. Went well and the overall result was as expected ,Great! I done a little "boxblading" and was surprised at how much more traction I had than previously(in 2wd). Overall I'm happy.

I'm glad. I bet the difference is night and day. Thanks for reporting back your results.

 

[RaydaKub]

If want wants SOME weight they can be filled to the level to give that weight. Half filled tires give some weight and greatly lower the center of gravity when like half full.

One issue with only filling it part way however is that you allow a good portion of the rim to be exposed to the air in the tire. By filling them to the recommended 75%, usually the rim is always "submerged" to minimize the corrosive effect. With washer fluid, this probably isn't an issue, but with CaChl, it would enhance the opportunity to rust.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I did not think people would run corrosive liquid for weight WITHOUT tubes?

 

[kubotacres]

I did not think people would run corrosive liquid for weight WITHOUT tubes?

If by "corrosive liquid" you mean Calcium Chloride I totally agree, even though Kubota states to use for freeze protection. However straight water with antifreeze is better IMO.. I know of a 30 year old tractor with loaded tires and has no corrosive problems. He used straight water/antifreeze and it's been in there ever since with a occasional level check. I guess it also depends on what "additive" you add to it too... Then again water/air will do damage as well.

 

[RickB]

If by "corrosive liquid" you mean Calcium Chloride I totally agree, even though Kubota states to use for freeze protection. However straight water with antifreeze is better IMO.. I know of a 30 year old tractor with loaded tires and has no corrosive problems. He used straight water/antifreeze and it's been in there ever since with a occasional level check. I guess it also depends on what "additive" you add to it too... Then again water/air will do damage as well.

I have two tractors that have original rear rims and so far as I know have always been loaded with CaCl. One is a 1971 Ford 4000 and the other is a 1976 Case 885.
The key is being smart enough to get small leaks repaired quickly before damage starts; not to let tubes weep fluid for years before replacing.
The last thing I want in my tires is something as toxic as common antifreeze, which seems to be getting a lot of play in this thread.

 

[kubotacres]

Toxic or Corrosive take your pick.

 

[EE_Bota]

Toxic or Corrosive take your pick.

I bought antifreeze for my Subaru at the Autozone yesterday, and I noticed they had non-toxic antifreeze for sale. It could be diluted for the actual freeze threat, and its corrosion inhibitors may actually help some in case they are running tubeless.

Edit:I think this anti-freeze is for radiator use, and they had a different non-toxic type for protection of RV water systems.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I think the non toxic for auto and RV usage may come from a similar base product. I got some of the non toxic auto stuff for fire extinguisher use but never actually used it in charges with Cold Fire.

 

[EE_Bota]

I think the non toxic for auto and RV usage may come from a similar base product. I got some of the non toxic auto stuff for fire extinguisher use but never actually used it in charges with Cold Fire.

I think you are right. I think it is propylene glycol instead of ethylene.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Propylene Glycol - Dog Food Aid or Automotive Antifreeze?

Propylene glycol even comes in FOOD grade of antifreeze.


Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Freeze point at different mixing ratios.

 

[Kabuki Tractor]

Toxic or Corrosive take your pick.

You left our Rim Guard. So that would be:

Toxic, Corrosive or Money take your pick.

 

[94BULLITT]

Loaded tires make the tractor more stable plus you have more pulling power because of the added weight.

 

[kubotacres]

You left our Rim Guard. So that would be:

Just plain water would be alright here in the deep south. I know very few people that even worry about using freeze protection in their tires. I only used 1/2 gallon in each tire, so that wouldn't do the Northern folks any good in those blizzards. So i guess it's now.....

Toxic, Corrosive,Money or Free take your pick