Autozone.....Really..??

   / Autozone.....Really..?? #61  
MossRoad said:
I agreee that his sole intention was to protect his friend and I applaud him for that. Yes, he was brave. Yes, his intentions were heroic. Yes, yes, yes. And in my opinion he should not have lost his job.

On the other hand, statistically, he raised the chances of his friend getting injured or killed by returning with a gun and he broke company policy that he agreed to when he was hired, so he should lose his job.

Its a 50-50 no-win situation. Except for the fact that everyone went home alive, which I would call a winner in this case.

Agreed. Everyone went home safe. If this had not been a former trained professional, then there could have been tragic results. Military personal are NOT trained to put their fellow comrades at risk. Did he really break company policy or the way the company interprets it's policy. Officially the store was closed so the article said. We he walked out that door AUTOZONE RELINGISHES liability just as any business does. When he stepped thru that doors threshold, he became John Q Public. When he and his fellow worker where pushed back in he was still John Q Public. The acting manager is paid to do deposits after hours, but not Mr. McLean. They where leaving. I think we haven't heard the last of this.
 
   / Autozone.....Really..?? #62  
I will also add that everyone has different opinions and different ways of dealing with situations. These 3 men were there and know the circumstances better than any of us so we (myself included) really shouldn't even be speculating on how this should have been handled. We only know what the media has told us.
 
   / Autozone.....Really..?? #63  
I can't boycott Autozone because I never shop there anyway. I always go to the NAPA store. Not only do they have quality parts for a fair price, but they will make up a blown hydraulic hose on the spot. If you are rural and own farm equipment, NAPA and your tractor dealer are the only two parts houses in the world.
 
   / Autozone.....Really..?? #64  
Agreed. Everyone went home safe. If this had not been a former trained professional, then there could have been tragic results. Military personal are NOT trained to put their fellow comrades at risk. Did he really break company policy or the way the company interprets it's policy. Officially the store was closed so the article said. We he walked out that door AUTOZONE RELINGISHES liability just as any business does. When he stepped thru that doors threshold, he became John Q Public. When he and his fellow worker where pushed back in he was still John Q Public. The acting manager is paid to do deposits after hours, but not Mr. McLean. They where leaving. I think we haven't heard the last of this.

What usually happens in these cases is some other business in the area will offer him a job. I hope it works out for him. When one door closes, another opens, as they say.
 
   / Autozone.....Really..?? #65  
What usually happens in these cases is some other business in the area will offer him a job. I hope it works out for him. When one door closes, another opens, as they say.
He would probably fit right in at the local Napa around here. Most of the guys there at our local ones are volunteer firefighters and are probably carrying.

Aaron Z
 
   / Autozone.....Really..?? #66  
I tend to steer clear of gun free zones just on principle I never noticed a no beretta sign posted on ours but the zone delivers. So I get certain parts like Felpro gaskets and NGK plugs there and oil and coolant on sale but thats about it the electronics parts are mostly junk chinese. fwtw
 
   / Autozone.....Really..?? #67  
You guys do realize that the robber got away, don't you? Thank goodness Devin McLean (or McClean in another story) used his superb good judgement and let the thief run away when he no longer posed a threat. Can you imagine losing a job and having to deal with charges for shooting an armed robber too? He may have never been charged, but he would have the hassle of the investigation. What o would want to hire someone with that matter unresolved. I think the most disturbing thing is he lost his job just before Christmas and he's a family man. Nobody wants to go job hunting at this time of year. Because he was fired for breaking company policy, I'd bet he will not be able to collect unemployment.

I wrote Autozone this morning and asked that they reinstate Mr. McLean. I clearly stated that I like their local store's employees and also their website, but I will be forced to boycott them if they do not reverse this decision.
 
   / Autozone.....Really..?? #68  
Wow, I didn't bother reading the story when I first saw this thread. I just realized that this happened about 10 miles from where I live. Our sheriff is a pretty good guy and that sounds like what he'd say. This is a semi rural county, especially compared to the two bordering cities. The shopping center where this happened borders military housing and it's on the more populated end of the county (closer to the cities).

About three miles from my house, there used to be an Exxon gas station. Almost 15 years ago, a guy walked into the store in the early morning hours, pointed a gun at the employee. Right after the employee opened the cash register, the robber shot him in the chest, walked around the counter, emptied the register and left. I often stopped by this gas station in the early morning hours during this time frame.

About five years ago, my father and I were embarking on a 250 mile (each way) day trip to attend a family reunion. We decided to go through the Hardee's drive-thru to grab a quick breakfast as we were leaving (probably 6:30a?). We waited at the menu/microphone for a little while, but nobody took our order. We drove to the window to see if maybe something was broken and had to knock on the glass before an employee came to the window. She told us she could not help us because they had just been robbed. As we were pulling away, several police cars were flying in. When we arrived back home after the reunion, we heard on the news that one of the employees had been shot and killed and a second employee shot and injured. One of the robbers shot the woman in the back of the head, AFTER the robbers had the money (~$150), because the robber and the woman WENT TO THE SAME CHURCH and he was afraid she would recognize him. My father and I had to be very close to this. We were in the parking lot probably 2-3 minutes before the police arrived, but didn't hear anything or see anyone fleeing the scene.

About 20 years ago, a man that lived down the street from my parents was selling a car and went to deliver the car, by himself, to a seller that had test driven the car. That was the last time he was seen alive. His body was found a week later handcuffed, legs taped together and a bullet wound in the chest. This case was on America's Most Wanted, which lead to an arrest.

This is three cases that are all 'close' to me, right off the top of my head, in a low crime area. All three of these resulted in innocent people being killed by robbers even though they gave the robber what they wanted. It's easy to say 'just give them the money, it's not worth your life', but there's no guarantee that they'll stop at just the money. Every situation is going to be different, and there is no way for anyone to know what may have happened if McClean did not scare off the robber. At the same time, after the fact is not the time to dispute the rules. If he knew the policy and decided to break it, he should be prepared for the consequences. If I'm taking someone to the hospital, and I break the speed limit, I don't expect the police to throw out the ticket because I had a good reason to speed. I have to be willing to accept the consequence of speeding and decide if it is worth it to me. If you truly fear for your life, then I don't think you really give a crap what your employee handbook says. Better to be looking for another job than having someone at your funeral talking about how good you were at following rules.

Keith
 
   / Autozone.....Really..?? #69  
I think "armchair quaterback" may be a good term to use right now.
 
   / Autozone.....Really..?? #70  
I am surprised no one has commented on this yet:

“He pulled a gun from his waist band and demanded me and my manager go back into the office,” McLean told Fox News.
At some point, McLean was left in a restroom while the gunman made the manager open the store safe. That’s when McLean, a 23-year-old Air Force veteran, bolted through a side door and ran to his truck.
He returned through the front door holding a Glock 40 – pointed directly at the masked robber."


What sort of holdup artist leaves one person in the restroom?
 

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