JD always more expensive than an equal Kubota?

[ohbehave]

I've got a JD dealer just a few clear, easy miles down the street from me. The Kubota dealer is probably 10+ miles away....through town and busy streets.

It would be nice to have the dealer so close. Well, let me ask, is it a big bonus to have a very close dealer?

Anyway, I'm guessing that JD comes with a bit of a price premium. With Kubota, I'm seeking something like a B3200SU (no mid-mount PTO and a front loader, 32hp)..... and, so, I'll be seeking a rough equivalent with JD.

Assuming that there is a price premium, I'm wondering if the close proximity to the dealer makes the difference.

Incidentally, the dealer is still waiting on JD to see what incentives are going to be offered. The last incentives expired January 31.

Thanks for any comments or advice.

 

[Zebrafive]

For the mileage you are talking it would not make a difference to me. I'd buy what I liked the best. If it was too close to call, I' buy from the dealer I liked the best.

 

[TripleR]

Pretty much what Zebrafive said, I go twenty-five+ miles past the John Deere dealer to get to my Kubota dealer because of problems with the original management; good bunch now though after I bought my Kubotas. I could be just as happy on a John Deere as Kubota and like both brands.

Sometimes on some models there is a significant price difference, but across the board I am not sure John Deere is higher in cost than Kubota. You will get price differences between dealers of both brands that might mitigate any difference so look at both places and get the one you like, it should last you a lifetime.

 

[ctlguy]

Dealer first, mfg second imo. Most mfg's closely watch what the others are doing and will purposly design their machines to be either below spec or above spec to the next mfg's model makeing it difficult to get an exact comparison but you can usually get close. Study up, ask questions, try as many as you can, and don't rely too much on our posts on the interwebs (we all have our favorites). Talk to your neighbors, freinds, etc who may have experience with the dealers in question.

 

[hosspuller]

I wonder where Deere got the rep for being high priced. JD has to compete with everybody else on price of their product. When I purchased my first tractor, JD won on price. I had to shop a bit. The local jd dealer (metro) wasn't interested in my business. But I was also looking at other brand dealers in the same travel radius.

I think the JD dealers in the metro areas are selling to Harry homeowner. So they're making full use of their high price rep. The trug ag dealers are forced to compete.

 

[Verticaltrx]

Generally if you are making an apples to apples comparison between JD and Kubota they will be close. With that said, when it comes to compact tractors there are gaps and different models in each hp/size range in the Deere vs Kubota line. For example, Kubota has the B3200/3300, L3200 and L3240 all of which are roughly a 30hp tractor. Deere has the 2720, 3005, 3032e and (3120?), between weight difference, transmission options and trim levels there are a lot of differences. Another thing is the cash rebates, Kubota has some good ones, Deere does not.

 

[ctlguy]

Generally if you are making an apples to apples comparison between JD and Kubota they will be close. With that said, when it comes to compact tractors there are gaps and different models in each hp/size range in the Deere vs Kubota line. For example, Kubota has the B3200/3300, L3200 and L3240 all of which are roughly a 30hp tractor. Deere has the 2720, 3005, 3032e and (3120?), between weight difference, transmission options and trim levels there are a lot of differences. Another thing is the cash rebates, Kubota has some good ones, Deere does not.

We have seen before where folks have relied on just the pricing they get off of the web and find out after purchasing that if they had spoken with a dealer that there was more pricing options. Not all programs are published don't rely completly on publicly posted rebates. Get a quote from an actuall dealer.

 

[ovrszd]

I think it varies by area too. I've read a lot of posts on here about comparable pricing. But in my area, JD is around 10% higher in the Utility tractor market. I just buy what fits me best.

 

[DFB]

Deere is getting competitive with econo models like the 3038E

 

[vtsnowedin]

It is very hard to make true apples to apples comparisons one machine or the other will best match what you need it to do and the other will have more or less abilities and durability. I do think though that all things considered a dollar spent on Green gets you as much tractor value as a dollar spent on orange. That includes work potential of the machine, amount of repairs and their cost, fuel consumption, and resale value etc. I do see more green on working farms and a lot more orange on suburban small holdings but that is due to Kubota specializing in CUTS and SCUTS designed to fit a small holders needs. If you don't have work for the machine to do it is a moot point. It looked shinny and new when you parked it in the barn and it will look shinny and new when your widow sells it. A lot of home owners only put fifty hours a year on their tractors while a working farm will put 1500 hours on a utility tractor a year

 

[fieldman12]

Kubota makes great machines in the compact and sub-compact line. Im sure there bigger machines are good too. My only worry with there bigger machines to me is there weight is much lighter than other comparible brands. Im not sure where all they have lightned them up at. Pretty much all the main manufacture brands anymore are light weights compared to old utility tractors. Only heavy ones I still know about is Massey Ferguson and I know the Mahrinda is pretty heavy. I have used pretty much all your big manufacture brands. In my opinion Deere especially these days is no better than any other brands in most cases. What Deere does have that like it or not makes them sell is a long history in the USA and a dealer pretty much everywhere. Most of us can think back about driving a Deere or know someone who had one when we where young. I do know Kubota has a good amount of dealers around seems like anymore. Deere also has a full line of equipment. They have everything from a lawnmower to a combine. That is why most big farms use Deere, along with good resale value, Service, and dealers all around. I think Deeres price is about in line with any other major players in the compact, sub-compact, and utility lines. One thing I look at is when I buy a tractor who gets the money. In most cases I will support a USA company first before a foreign company. Even though a foreign company may have a plant in America I know the bulk of the money is leaving here. I know my new Deere is made in India which I am not fond of but I still feel the bulk of the money is going to Deere which is USA owned. I really like Case Ih and New Holland equipment which is Fiat majority owned from Italy. I bought my New Holland new and it's a good machine although I don't think it's of the same level as the old Fords we had. Its hard to by American anymore no matter what brand. Everything is based on a global basis anymore. I know most people don't cae about American made anymore. Im just old fashioned lol. And yes I know Deere has been using the Yanmar Diesel engines which are great for a long time. My big Chevrolet bowtie with a Duramax Diesel is really an Isuzu.

 

[texasjohn]

My experience, several years ago, yes, Deere was more expensive and less service oriented, at least for me.
YMMV.

 

[vtsnowedin]

Fieldman 12
In your line up you have both a New Holland TN70 and a John Deere 5055E , Very similar weight, power , tires etc. If you had to sell one of them which would go down the road first?

 

[kevin37b]

Talk to Carl , I would be more concerned with the dealer than I would the machine .

 

[creekbend]

My experience, several years ago, yes, Deere was more expensive and less service oriented, at least for me.
YMMV.

I had the same experience. This coming June will be two years when I bought my tractor. I went with my neighbor to the largest JD dealer in my area because he had purchased his tractor there. Rest assured that it is not my intentions to compare one brand with another, but the salesman at the JD dealer wouldn't even lower his price $50.00. He even commented to me that if I wasn't willing to pay his price, someone else would. I eventually bought a Kubota L4400 because of the price and the excellent service and repore shown by this dealership. In concluding, I would state that the service provided by the Dealer is at the top of my buying list. BTW, best wishes.

 

[D7E]

We had 9 JD's once untill an arrogant salesman made me go down the road and buy a brand new ford within 10 years we had 13 tractors and only one was a JD and i still have trouble dealing with them now . We last year we bought a NH T7040 in the UK and JD could'nt come anywhere close to the price for the spec .

 

[fieldman12]

Fieldman 12
In your line up you have both a New Holland TN70 and a John Deere 5055E , Very similar weight, power , tires etc. If you had to sell one of them which would go down the road first?

It's hard to say as I like both and I have not had the Deere long. I would probably lean towards the New Holland. I like the metal hood and in my opinion the open station seems to be a little nicer. For some reason I have not got use to the shift pattern of the Deere yet especially in the dark.

 

[fieldman12]

We had 9 JD's once untill an arrogant salesman made me go down the road and buy a brand new ford within 10 years we had 13 tractors and only one was a JD and i still have trouble dealing with them now . We last year we bought a NH T7040 in the UK and JD could'nt come anywhere close to the price for the spec .

What New Holland tractors you have? Any combines? I love the genisis New Holland tractors back when they where made. The outfit we have on the farms uses four Deere combine. Last year we had two Deere 9870's,1-9860, and 1-9660 combines.

 

[D7E]

What New Holland tractors you have? Any combines? I love the genisis New Holland tractors back when they where made. The outfit we have on the farms uses four Deere combine. Last year we had two Deere 9870's,1-9860, and 1-9660 combines.

blue ones are ..Ford versatile 876 , T 7040 ,TW20 , 7840sl, 7840 SLE , 7600 , 5610 and 2 fordson majors . 2 NH combines (8080 and 8050) in the uk but Case IH combines here .

 

[AKfish]

There wasn't more than a couple hundred bucks difference between Kubota and Deere on the last 2 tractors I bought. And, quite frankly; the salespeople at both brands were almost arrogant with the attitude of - "if you won't pay what I'm asking the next guy in the door will"!!

The difference between the franchises that made the purchase difference for me - part's availability and qualified repair service. Kubota did not have good, experienced repair folk's and part's availability was pretty scary... nobody wants to be "down" in the middle of the growing season - waiting on parts!

AKfish