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Stop doping up innocent children on psychotropic medications simply because they are being children and you don't want to be a parent. This is what happens when people are paid by taxpayers to lay on their backs and have babies. If you think you're being a good parent, you're wrong if you aren't whipping your children's *** when they get out of line. Video games are not babysitters. Stop letting Hollywood raise your children.

Those couple of things will go a long ways to getting society back on the right track.

I agree 100%. I know a guy who married a lazy drug addict with a 6 year old. They are doing this exact thing to that child all because they are both lazy and refuse to actually be parents. The kid is starting to have terrible behavior issues in school. It's a sad situation for the kids.
 
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Saw this story on the local news last night. Glad they caught the idiot that did it, but unfortunately, I doubt much will be done with him. I sure hope they make an example out of the guy, as that is the only way this kind of thing will stop.

I feel the same way. Only time will tell.
 
   / Horses Shot #43  
Education and morals are learned when the mind is young and malleable. If we continue to let Hollywood and video games raise our doped up children, there won't be any such thing as morals and education. My solution is killing the killers, and locking up those who can't function in society. What's so hard to understand?
There was a recent thread on TBN about property taxes and school taxes. Lot's of people without children didn't want to pay for the education of others children. Let them grow up uneducated. Of course those uneducated teens are more likely to become the dumb hicks with guns, but so what.

I grew up around a lot of "poor" people, looking back I think my family may have existed just above the property level for many years. Many of the parents didn't have the resources to buy that science kit or encyclopedia and could barely afford the B&W TV. Some of the parents tried to help educate their children, but with limited funds, working 10-12 hour days they just didn't have the resources. Some of those kids broke out and got on to good paying jobs, but many became the janitors of life due to lack of education.

It's a terrible cycle to break out of.

The problem with killing the killers is when the DNA evidence turns up wrong, or when a key witness later admits lying, it's difficult to dig the grave up and put the falsely accused back to work.

I agree we don't need much gun control, we need more gun education and idiot control.
 
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There was a recent thread on TBN about property taxes and school taxes. Lot's of people without children didn't want to pay for the education of others children. Let them grow up uneducated. Of course those uneducated teens are more likely to become the dumb hicks with guns, but so what.

Dumb hicks with guns... interesting (stereotypical) choice of words. :confused2:

As I'm sure you're aware, the thread you mentioned was created by me. While I will not debate that topic here because it is after-all... another topic, I will clarify this by saying many people (including me) felt the system should be more balanced and fair. And I quote:

It's always bothered me that people without kids have to pay as much or more than people with kids. Have more kids, pay more money. Have fewer kids or no kids, pay less money. Simple, and fair.

Here's a link to the thread so that others may read it and see what was actually said, thus deciding for themselves.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/front-porch/271226-schools-property-taxes.html
 
   / Horses Shot #45  
Unfortunately, this is a loose, loose for everyone.

1. The horse owners are out a horse and more than likely a large vet bill.

2. The general public will have to foot the bill for prosecution and a possible jail stay. In addition, we will have to fight off all the proposed ideas of how to stop shootings like this. Such ideas will ultimately inconvenience the people who follow the law and will have little effect on criminals.

3. The perpetrator will have fines, court costs, and MAYBE some jail time.

So, who looses the least in a situation like this?

Our system needs improvement. There has to be a way that we could make prisoners earn their keep. The "good" prisoners already do a lot of the work at prisons, but I am talking about having them make valuable products. What could prisoners help to manufacture so that their stay at prison would be at least partially paid for?

A program like this would also give the prisoners some marketable skills that will maybe keep them out of prison the next time.
 
   / Horses Shot #46  
Being a parent is more than laying on your back and getting pregnant. Being a parent is raising that child until adulthood to be a responsible and educated individual who is ready to step out into society on their own.

Hmmmmm....Your post sounds a little one sided....it would be like me saying "Being a parent is more than dropping your pants and knocking some chick up". Remember it does takes two to make that baby and both mother and father should be responsible for the raising of that child :) With that being said I do agree that many "parents" expect others like teachers, daycare staff, coaches or worse yet.....the streets to raise their children. They also give their children numerous materialistic things to "babysit" them. I'm not even sure how many parents sit down and have a family meal every night with their children nowadays. My children are grown now and out of the house but when my children were younger and invited friends over for dinner almost all of them were shocked that we sat down together as a family for dinner and actually shared about how our day was!
 
   / Horses Shot #47  
The night shooters across the river who shoot all the time....do you live in a city or town limit that has regulations on discharging firearms? I admit its not wise to shoot into the night but in the country regardless of houses and where they are there in no law against shooting your guns on your property. Now reckless discharge yes but if there shooting into a bank ditch dirt or hill side they could argue that its safe and so could the police. Just saying. I hear shots all the time in the town im in. I live in a town with say 30 people in the town limits but were all kind of close. I have crazy and I mean card carrying wanna be country, city folks that live in the old farm house. I have lived here say 5 years and there still working on the paint job on that house. THey have I think a 20 gauge that they shoot squirrels "because they get in their attic and chew the wires". They shoot regardless of the direction or where I am in the yard and then throw the empties in my yard. We have has words on many occasions so they do this to make me mad I guess?? I throw them back over, they know I own guns and occasionally may discharge one into the ground but maybe 2x in the 5 years. So if they say how do I know its thiers I will say it was on your side of my yard and I don't own a 20ga!!

Sorry for the sidetrack, but I could go on for hours about them.
 
   / Horses Shot #49  
HeHeh......keep your cool,Clemson. You are a much-tried individual. Hang in there! don-ohio :)^)
 
   / Horses Shot #50  
Unfortunately, this is a loose, loose for everyone.

1. The horse owners are out a horse and more than likely a large vet bill.

2. The general public will have to foot the bill for prosecution and a possible jail stay. In addition, we will have to fight off all the proposed ideas of how to stop shootings like this. Such ideas will ultimately inconvenience the people who follow the law and will have little effect on criminals.

3. The perpetrator will have fines, court costs, and MAYBE some jail time.

So, who looses the least in a situation like this?

Our system needs improvement. There has to be a way that we could make prisoners earn their keep. The "good" prisoners already do a lot of the work at prisons, but I am talking about having them make valuable products. What could prisoners help to manufacture so that their stay at prison would be at least partially paid for?

A program like this would also give the prisoners some marketable skills that will maybe keep them out of prison the next time.

First of all
Loose

Loose is an adjective, the opposite of tight or contained.

My shoes are loose
I have a loose tooth
There's a dog running loose in the street

Lose

Lose is a verb that means to suffer the loss of, to miss.

I win! You lose!
Don't lose your keys
I never lose bets
But prisoners making stuff - been going on for a long time
Prisoners, whose ranks increasingly consist of those for whom the legitimate economy has found no use, now make up a virtual brigade within the reserve army of the unemployed whose ranks have ballooned along with the U.S. incarceration rate. The Corrections Corporation of America and GEO, two prison privatizers, along with a third smaller operator, G4S (formerly Wackenhut), sell inmate labor at subminimum wages to Fortune 500 corporations like Chevron, Bank of America, AT&T, and IBM.

These companies can, in most states, lease factories in prisons or prisoners to work on the outside. All told, nearly a million prisoners are now making office furniture, working in call centers, fabricating body armor, taking hotel reservations, working in slaughterhouses, or manufacturing textiles, shoes, and clothing, while getting paid somewhere between 93 cents and $4.73 per day.
Tomgram: Fraser and Freeman, Creating a Prison-Corporate Complex | TomDispatch

Prison labor is no longer picking up trash on the highway. It's a big corporate rip off of our states.
But CCA, to borrow a trope from journalism, buried the "lede" in the governors' letter. The real head-snapping revelation appeared in the third-to-last paragraph: in exchange for buying a state's prison, CCA required that the state prison agency ensure that the prison remained at least 90% full. Translation: We'll buy your prisons and keep 'em orderly and clean, so as long you keep the prisoners coming in.
So if you get arrested and sent to prison it might just be that they need a bigger labor force.
 

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