Most efficient way to burn wood

[westcliffe01]

This is not true. It is generally the case for INSERTS and that is because the majority of the insert is buried and so one loses out on the majority of the radiant and convective heat transfer.

My current stove is a Pacific Energy T5, made in Canada where the winters are more extreme and they only have pine to burn. It is a "convection" type stove, although it does give off a lot of radiant heat from the front door. At the back it can be installed 6" from a wall, quite remarkable compared to most US stoves that need either 18" clearances or a fireproof heat shield mounted on insulators to the wall. This was the case for Harman, Vermont Castings and Woodstock Soapstone stoves. They were all eliminated due to the rear and side clearance issues, no matter how much I liked them otherwise. I offered to help Woodstock on a free consulting basis to develop a heat shield to reduce the clearance on their stoves, but they were not interested. Its quite funny when all of the CAT Tier 4 emissions systems are insulated according to my design, but not good enough for a stove manufacturer...

Most of the EPA stoves require a blower to get heat. If I was going to buy one tomorrow I would go with a Hearthstone. They are made out of soapstone and you can get radiant heat. Have you considered propane? You would not have the mess of wood.

 

[94BULLITT]

This is not true. It is generally the case for INSERTS and that is because the majority of the insert is buried and so one loses out on the majority of the radiant and convective heat transfer.

My current stove is a Pacific Energy T5, made in Canada where the winters are more extreme and they only have pine to burn. It is a "convection" type stove, although it does give off a lot of radiant heat from the front door. At the back it can be installed 6" from a wall, quite remarkable compared to most US stoves that need either 18" clearances or a fireproof heat shield mounted on insulators to the wall. This was the case for Harman, Vermont Castings and Woodstock Soapstone stoves. They were all eliminated due to the rear and side clearance issues, no matter how much I liked them otherwise. I offered to help Woodstock on a free consulting basis to develop a heat shield to reduce the clearance on their stoves, but they were not interested. Its quite funny when all of the CAT Tier 4 emissions systems are insulated according to my design, but not good enough for a stove manufacturer...

A lot of EPA free standing stoves require a blower. The main ones that don't are a soapstone or a cast iron stove.

 

[westcliffe01]

Since I have done extensive research to arrive at my PE stove, how about you list just 5 EPA stoves that "require" a blower ? It should be easy if a "lot" of them need it, as you say ?

Let me say this: None of the Jotul stoves I looked at needed a blower - thats the entire lineup. Nor did any of the Blaze King stoves, one of the most efficient catalytic stoves ever made. None of the Morso "classic" stoves need a blower, many of them are designed as convection stoves. The Pacific Energy line of stoves list a thermostatically controlled blower as an option - not a necessity.

So your claim is false.

The truth is that MOST EPA stoves do NOT need a blower.

But please, show us the facts that should convince us otherwise ?

 

[clemsonfor]

A lot of EPA free standing stoves require a blower. The main ones that don't are a soapstone or a cast iron stove.

OR pretty much any freestander in a room? They have a blower option but is not required and many dont have one and yet they heat there home.

 

[dmccarty]

FYI, our stove is EPA rated and does not need nor have a blower and it heats the entire house.

A previous post mentioned heated bathroom floors...

Since the radiant floors did not make money sense for us we put in two electric heaters in the bathrooms. They have blowers. :laughing::laughing::laughing: The guest/kids bathroom is really three rooms, one large room with sinks off of which is a room with the tub and another for the toilet. I designed the bathroom this way so multiple people could use the facilities at one time. The bath tub room has one of these heaters which really helps HEAT that little space. Our bathroom is larger and we have a heater as well but because of the bigger space volume the heater does not work as well as the other. But it still works. I don't use the heater, I am rough and tough, but the rest of the family does. :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Maybe I am more cheap than rough and tough..... :confused3:

Later,
Dan

 

[D7E]

There are plenty of wood burning folks on this forum so I'd thought to ask a question. The wife and I are talking about moving and building a 1 floor house. I was thinking I do not want to stop burning wood but there has to be something more efficient than burning 4 cords of wood for a 1500 sq ft house.?

wow i burn 10-12 cords a year for 1500ft .

 

[kiotiken]

wow i burn 10-12 cords a year for 1500ft .

4 cords = 12 face cords

 

[clemsonfor]

wow i burn 10-12 cords a year for 1500ft .

Are you burning in an open fireplace?? Thats a lot of wood!! Im not sure you could actually burn that much unless you have at least 2 stoves and are loading them a minimum of 3x per day and there 2+ cuft stoves!!!

I mean i am on the Hearth.com pretty often and there are folks useing 6 cords a year all across canada and alaska!! That just seems like an awful lot of wood. You may consider an epa stove if you have an old smoke dragon.

Maybe you ahve an outdoor boiler and a huge house, i could see that amount of consumption up there if that were the case.

 

[D7E]

4 cords = 12 face cords

Never really understood what a face cord is i only know 4x4x8 cord . Thats what we sell as a cord

 

[D7E]

Are you burning in an open fireplace?? Thats a lot of wood!! Im not sure you could actually burn that much unless you have at least 2 stoves and are loading them a minimum of 3x per day and there 2+ cuft stoves!!!

I mean i am on the Hearth.com pretty often and there are folks useing 6 cords a year all across canada and alaska!! That just seems like an awful lot of wood. You may consider an epa stove if you have an old smoke dragon.

Maybe you ahve an outdoor boiler and a huge house, i could see that amount of consumption up there if that were the case.

26 inch x 30 inch cast iron in the basement burns 24/7 for 5 months fill it every 2-4 hours hours depending on setting .