Anybody with a CK27HST

Looking4new · Mar 20, 2013

I have on the right hand side of my seat a small lever that moves fore and aft. It has the letters 'A' (in the forward position) 'N' (in the mid position) and 'D' (in the rear position). This lever is right beside the lever for the 3pt hitch. The question is, what does this thing do?

maximus1277 · Mar 20, 2013

Either draft control or auxiliary hydraulics. Picture would help.

Notlaker · Mar 20, 2013

Do you have a backhoe?

dfkrug · Mar 20, 2013

Looking4new said:
This lever is right beside the lever for the 3pt hitch.

Here is a photo of my right-side control lever area. The orange handle is 3pt position control, the
yellow handle in an OEM single detented remote (option), the empty slot is for the 2nd OEM
remote (option), and finally the black handle is in the draft control slot. That black handle
is my engine speed control, however. That's custom.

The service manual refers to the draft control option, but I have not heard of any CKs being
sold in N America with that option.

Did your tractor somehow get the DC option?

Gittyup · Mar 20, 2013

no draft control on a CK. It's for a rear hydraulic remote, or a backhoe (or sorta both). Positions change flow of hydraulics. Should return to neutral when released. May lock in one or both positions. Be careful with it engaged in and left in either position. Deadheading the hydraulics will destroy your hydraulic pump. If you don't use the rear remote, put a loop back hose between the ports to prevent deadheading.

rmorey · Mar 20, 2013

If you look just below the toolbox on the right hand side above the 3 point hitch, there should be 2 hydraulic connectors. (rear remotes)

The switch (the yellow one in your pic) controls the pressure and return to these connections. Used, as others have mentioned, to provide hydraulics to a rear implement, such as backhoe, woodsplitter or even turn a shute on a snowblower. when in "A" position, fliud flows one way, when in "B" flows the other way. Should keep it in "N" when not using it. (currently in "B" in your pic)

Mousefield · Mar 20, 2013

I have a backhoe with my CK35. I use this lever and go from A to N, depending on if my backhoe is on. One runs the backhoe and the other the 3pt hitch (only one at a time). So every time I put on or take off the backhoe I switch from A to N. As mentioned make sure you do not deadhead your hydraulics.
The lever on my CK35 may be different from yours so check in your manual to make sure where this lever should be.

Looking4new · Mar 21, 2013

Gittyup said:
no draft control on a CK. It's for a rear hydraulic remote, or a backhoe (or sorta both). Positions change flow of hydraulics. Should return to neutral when released. May lock in one or both positions. Be careful with it engaged in and left in either position. Deadheading the hydraulics will destroy your hydraulic pump. If you don't use the rear remote, put a loop back hose between the ports to prevent deadheading.

I already have a 'loop back hose' on the rear remotes. That was part of the deal.

I will try to get pics tomorrow and post them.

Notlaker....Do you have a backhoe?
No I don't have a backhoe.

Looking4new · Mar 21, 2013

Gittyup said:
no draft control on a CK. It's for a rear hydraulic remote, or a backhoe (or sorta both). Positions change flow of hydraulics. Should return to neutral when released. May lock in one or both positions. Be careful with it engaged in and left in either position. Deadheading the hydraulics will destroy your hydraulic pump. If you don't use the rear remote, put a loop back hose between the ports to prevent deadheading.

I already have a 'loop back hose' on the rear remotes. That was part of the deal.

I will try to get pics tomorrow and post them.

Notlaker....Do you have a backhoe?
No I don't have a backhoe.

I am pretty quite sure I don't have draft control. I'll post pics in the A.M.

kiotiken · Mar 21, 2013

Looking4new said:
I already have a 'loop back hose' on the rear remotes. That was part of the deal.

I will try to get pics tomorrow and post them.

Notlaker....Do you have a backhoe?
No I don't have a backhoe.

I am pretty quite sure I don't have draft control. I'll post pics in the A.M.

I'm not sure if you're still looking for the answer, from this post is seems like you are. The previous posters are 100% correct. There is no draft control on a CK series tractor. The A-N-B is for the single set of remotes that you paid extra for, if you knew it or not. The CK doesn't come with remotes, it's dealer installed. Kioti offers a kit for the second set as well, when it is installed, you have a second lever labelled C-N-D. My second set also had a float position, but they both have a detent position, but you don't need to worry about that if you have a loop installed.

Yes they are used for a backhoe but no, that's not all they're used for. I no longer have a backhoe, but have two sets of remotes that I used to control the rotation and the deflection on my snowblower. Lots of attachments require remotes as well as other features like top and tilt.

Looking4new · Mar 21, 2013

So what does the 'A' and the 'B' do? The 'N' I am going to assume is neutral.

rmorey · Mar 21, 2013

The "A" position, lets fluid out the top jack and returns on the lower jack. "B" reverses it. So if you have an implement attached, such as a rotary chute on a snowblower, "A" turns the chute left and "B" turns it right.

Looking4new · Mar 21, 2013

Thank you.

Notlaker · Mar 21, 2013

Is it possible that your 'D' is actually a 'B' with the middle of the 'B' worn off?

Looking4new · Mar 21, 2013

That was a typo on my part. I just fixed it.

Mousefield · Mar 21, 2013

Looking4new said:
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So what does the 'A' and the 'B' do? The 'N' I am going to assume is neutral.

No, do NOT assume N is neutral.
On my tractor N still supplies hydraulic pressure

Looking4new · Mar 21, 2013

Mousefield said:
No, do NOT assume N is neutral.
On my tractor N still supplies hydraulic pressure

Is 'N' the position that supplies pressure to the loader?

Mousefield · Mar 21, 2013

Looking4new said:
Is 'N' the position that supplies pressure to the loader?

No. I just came back from grading my road with the boxblade on the 3pt hitch. The lever in N postion is what controls the 3pt hydralics, in A it controls the backhoe when I have it on. I have to move the lever between A or N, it basically redirects the hydraulic to each area as needed for the (A) backhoe or (N) 3pt. You should check in your manual in case my setup is different from yours. As far as I know this lever has nothing to do with the front loader, if I'm wrong :ashamed: I'm sure someone will correct me.

rmorey · Mar 21, 2013

The a/n/b switch is strictly used to control the rear remote operation. the big red knob controls the 3pt hitch. If you add a second rear remote, you will get another switch, but it will have c/n/d on it to differentiate it from the other. ab controls one set and cd controls the other.

The loader is controlled by the remotes located on the right hand side of the loader frame in front of you.

Looking4new · Mar 21, 2013

Thanks people. As you can tell, I've never had rear remotes on a tractor before. the way I figure it, it is way easier and cheaper to ask on here than to do and break something.