Garlic from China. What gives?

   / Garlic from China. What gives? #61  
Puke. We are doing it to ourselves. I found the statement below in the attached link. Kinda backfired.

Johl tore out 80 acres of cling peaches at his Yuba County ranch this season, part of a tree-pull program sponsored by the state peach board to reduce the supply of peaches and help bolster prices.

US (CA): Peach growers fight imports

Same thing is happening with Mich. Peaches, and now Blueberries.
Not China, but nasty 3rd world crap holes in South America

10 years ago, the UN funded program to introduce new Ag products paid for several of the leading blueberry plant biologists, to go to Chile' and argentina.
The very same Plant Biologists that are funded by my state and us growers. They set up a couple California importers operations to suit, and now the fruit is imported fresh and frozen killing the domestic market. How can it be done cheaper? Easy. No Democrats in Chile' or Argentina, so there is no EPA/USDA/USDOL/FDA etc. costing the producers billions, and they do not have to pay labor a Min. wage. Most of all, they do not have shiney shoes citiots mandating grower practices that cost billions for no gain in food safety.
If the USDA treated the imported crap, the same way they do the stuff we grow, it would never get into the country.
Unfortunately, the chineese can afford to bribe Obama and the Feds more than we can.

The biggest fraud going right now is Honey.
The Chineese will bootleg label thier stuff blatently and half the big retailers could give a Rats butt where it came from.
The Bee keepers are already losing thier arse with CCD, and because of the Chineese, they are losing on the market.
So many have given up, it drives the cost of pollenation higher, and makes U.S. produce even less viable against the Red Chineese garbage.

Country of Origin labeling requirements should a no brainer.
Nice big letters on the front. Price my ***, people will pay more to avoid the chineese crap, or the importers wouldn't be fighting it so hard.;)
 
   / Garlic from China. What gives? #62  
Dingeryote,

Well said.
 
   / Garlic from China. What gives? #63  
The book was " The Last Stand of Fox Company: A True Story of U.S. Marines In Combat". I really enjoyed the book and it is yet another example of why the military deserves our unending respect and gratitude. The things these guys went thru in combat are unbelievable.

I have not read that particular book but I have read about Fox company in other books. What happened at Chosin and WHY is informative on many levels. Why Chosin happened led to the stalemate at the 38th parallel and is why we have a young nut "leading" in North Korea.

Many of the units Mao sent to fight in Korea were full of ex Nationalist Chinese, aka Mao's enemies. Mao sent the ex Nationalist Chinese off to Korea to fight and die. Mostly to die, since their warm clothing was made off cotton and wet cotton will kill you quick in cold weather. The Chinese were freezing to death in their padded cotton jackets and cotton sneakers. At least they were drugged up to lesson the pain. :rolleyes:

Later,
Dan
 
   / Garlic from China. What gives? #64  
Opened a jar of dole peaches yesterday and just happened to look at the back, product of china. That one caught me off guard.

A few years ago I was eating canned fruit for lunch. I would check the labels and most of the fruit was NOT from the US. I would not eat fruit from China. Eventually, we bought a dehydrator so I can dry fruit that is from US sources. We want to plant some apple trees and last summer we had some land cleared to do so. This year I need to clean up the downed trees and prepare to plant the apple trees and blueberry bushes.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Garlic from China. What gives? #65  
I have read that a lot of what is labeled "pure honey" in the grocery store is not. I buy my honey at the county fair where the local bee keepers have a live hive display and honey for sale. I support local people and get real honey.

The FDA and USDA have become fronts for corporate interests. Those interests are not aligned with those of local bee keepers or other small local producers. Even the EPA is subject to economic short-term pressures. The Keystone pipeline fracas is a good example. In absolute terms, more oil is exactly the opposite of what is good for the air, water, or just about about anything alive.

Dingeryote: I'm sure both political parties share the blame for the current situation. For example, I don't think you will get Republican support for truth in labeling laws. It is very limited thinking that disparaging one party or the other will fix much of anything. We've been doing that for a long time now, and you can see who is losing.
 
   / Garlic from China. What gives? #66  
dave1949;3261351... [I said:
Dingeryote[/I]: I'm sure both political parties share the blame for the current situation. For example, I don't think you will get Republican support for truth in labeling laws. It is very limited thinking that disparaging one party or the other will fix much of anything. We've been doing that for a long time now, and you can see who is losing.

Those two sentences are rather ironic...

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Later,
Dan
 
   / Garlic from China. What gives? #67  
Those two sentences are rather ironic...

:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Later,
Dan

Not really. Dingeryote thinks honey is the biggest current scam. It's a scam because it isn't what the label says it is. He also said the problem is all due to Democrats. His honey issue could be fixed by truth in labeling laws, which Republicans won't support.

Ironic or not, it's fact. As long as the major parties can get us to fight over the symptoms and not the root causes, we are going backwards.

Connect some dots; the entire globally-sourced food market depends on cheap transportation. Whether it's honey from China or iceberg lettuce from California shipped to Maine, it cannot be done economically without cheap transport. Cheap transportation relies on oil products.

If you are a local producer selling to local markets, supporting things like the Keystone pipeline is cutting your own throat because it enables continued cheap transportation for your competitors, although it comes at a very high environmental cost.
 
   / Garlic from China. What gives? #68  
I have read that a lot of what is labeled "pure honey" in the grocery store is not. I buy my honey at the county fair where the local bee keepers have a live hive display and honey for sale. I support local people and get real honey.

The FDA and USDA have become fronts for corporate interests. Those interests are not aligned with those of local bee keepers or other small local producers. Even the EPA is subject to economic short-term pressures. The Keystone pipeline fracas is a good example. In absolute terms, more oil is exactly the opposite of what is good for the air, water, or just about about anything alive.

Dingeryote: I'm sure both political parties share the blame for the current situation. For example, I don't think you will get Republican support for truth in labeling laws. It is very limited thinking that disparaging one party or the other will fix much of anything. We've been doing that for a long time now, and you can see who is losing.

You are absolutely correct, but it's even worse. The FDA refuses to define what honey even is! There are a few states that have defined it. In NY, we have been trying for years to define what honey is, but he lobbiest for the importers is to strong. The Farm Bureau is even controled by them. The battle recently is bad enough that the importers are currently trying to pass a definition of honey which would prevent me from selling raw unprocessed honey as honey!
 
   / Garlic from China. What gives? #69  
You are absolutely correct, but it's even worse. The FDA refuses to define what honey even is! There are a few states that have defined it. In NY, we have been trying for years to define what honey is, but he lobbiest for the importers is to strong. The Farm Bureau is even controled by them. The battle recently is bad enough that the importers are currently trying to pass a definition of honey which would prevent me from selling raw unprocessed honey as honey!

That says it all.

Now, if you would agree to add some high-fructose corn syrup to it .... :laughing:
 
   / Garlic from China. What gives? #70  
both political parties share the blame for the current situation. .

Very true. Both sides share this one. We regulate like we have no external competition.
 

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