Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available?

[Larry Caldwell]

The roundup resistant weeds are pigweed, a species of amaranth. Amaranth is a common and popular food seed in South America, so maybe we should combine the pigweed and sell the flour?

Just to interject some facts into this discussion, have you ever read an MSDS for glyphosate?

http://www.propserv.otago.ac.nz/msds/DownloadPdf.aspx?file=Roundup7071Concentrate.pdf&download=0

For comparison, here's the MSDS for 2,4-D

http://msdssearch.dow.com/Published...f.pdf?filepath=/011-10110.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc

My personal opinion is that the frankenfoodies make stuff up to get folks all worked up, but there is no hazard to GM crops.

 

[NorTracNY]

The roundup resistant weeds are pigweed, a species of amaranth. Amaranth is a common and popular food seed in South America, so maybe we should combine the pigweed and sell the flour?

Just to interject some facts into this discussion, have you ever read an MSDS for glyphosate?

http://www.propserv.otago.ac.nz/msds/DownloadPdf.aspx?file=Roundup7071Concentrate.pdf&download=0

For comparison, here's the MSDS for 2,4-D

http://msdssearch.dow.com/Published...f.pdf?filepath=/011-10110.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc

My personal opinion is that the frankenfoodies make stuff up to get folks all worked up, but there is no hazard to GM crops.

Interesting news... Heavy use of herbicide Roundup linked to health dangers-U.S. study | Reuters

I'm not sure where "but there is no hazard to GM crops." Comes from. I've heard that it's inconclusive because not many long term studies have been done.

 

[Dr_Zinj]

In my humble opinion, Roundup Ready anything is trading long term disaster for short term gain. I don't have anything against Roundup, it works great for targeted kills, it's the broadcast spraying that irks me. Maybe I've seen too many G.I.s from 'Nam with Agent Orange-caused diseases. On the other hand, Monsantos' persecution of farmers for using crops contaminated by wind-born pollen from their GMO fields should have gotten every one of that company's executives and lawyers lynched, drawn, quartered, burned, had their ashes salted, and then spread from an airplane over a random patch of ocean. Can you tell I'm not too happy about that?

 

[DT86]

.... Monsantos' persecution of farmers for using crops contaminated by wind-born pollen from their GMO fields should have gotten every one of that company's executives and lawyers lynched, drawn, quartered, burned, had their ashes salted, and then spread from an airplane over a random patch of ocean.

I don't think many people even realize this happens or how far Monsanto goes to screw these people over royally.

 

[DFB]

Oops! Monsanto Stock just lost $1.25 a share today

Heavy use of herbicide Roundup linked to health dangers-U.S. study | Reuters

 

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So, in large scale farming, we need to use cost efficient chemicals. As long as we produce food and there remains even a question of food safety, that's good enough to keep on doing what we need to keep on getting to meet food demand. Ok so after a while the nasties adapt and then we need a new chemical structure. So basically the only thing that has changed from Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring" from the 60's is chemicals. So if our basic food commodities such as wheat, rye, corn and other grains are "chemicaled" or genetically mutated, that means that down that entire food processing chain to say flour, is contaminated chemically or genetically. This means what? You shouldn't eat bread made with this flour? No more pasta? Forget morning cereal?
Switch to vegetables for breakfast? Aren't they sprayed too? There is nothing left clean to eat unless we go back to the old local grain mills, reduce agriculture from agribusiness, put up your own food stocks and like that's gonna happen. We can't even raise our own kids we are so busy making money. And to think, if one were asked if one would sell their soul to the devil for any reason, they'd say "absolutely not". Well, we already have.

 

[dave1949]

So, in large scale farming, we need to use cost efficient chemicals. As long as we produce food and there remains even a question of food safety, that's good enough to keep on doing what we need to keep on getting to meet food demand. Ok so after a while the nasties adapt and then we need a new chemical structure. So basically the only thing that has changed from Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring" from the 60's is chemicals. So if our basic food commodities such as wheat, rye, corn and other grains are "chemicaled" or genetically mutated, that means that down that entire food processing chain to say flour, is contaminated chemically or genetically. This means what? You shouldn't eat bread made with this flour? No more pasta? Forget morning cereal?
Switch to vegetables for breakfast? Aren't they sprayed too? There is nothing left clean to eat unless we go back to the old local grain mills, reduce agriculture from agribusiness, put up your own food stocks and like that's gonna happen. We can't even raise our own kids we are so busy making money. And to think, if one were asked if one would sell their soul to the devil for any reason, they'd say "absolutely not". Well, we already have.

Hear! Hear!

The idea that chemical-dependent agriculture, or GM food sources, are just fine because there is either no data, scant data, or a piece of paper that says it won't hurt you, skips right over a lot of questions. The only direction we are headed in is more chemicals, and more bio-genetic engineering.

When did anyone identify that as a good or sustainable goal? Never happened. I'm sure it's a great business model for Monsanto and others, but so what? That's a good reason to eat the stuff?

 

[farmgirl19]

Why Genetically Engineer Trees?

 

[dave1949]

Why Genetically Engineer Trees?

Thanks for posting that. I watched the whole 46 minutes! It's like you can't take your eyes off a train wreck.

 

[sd455dan]

In my humble opinion, Roundup Ready anything is trading long term disaster for short term gain. I don't have anything against Roundup, it works great for targeted kills, it's the broadcast spraying that irks me. Maybe I've seen too many G.I.s from 'Nam with Agent Orange-caused diseases. On the other hand, Monsantos' persecution of farmers for using crops contaminated by wind-born pollen from their GMO fields should have gotten every one of that company's executives and lawyers lynched, drawn, quartered, burned, had their ashes salted, and then spread from an airplane over a random patch of ocean. Can you tell I'm not too happy about that?

I agree about the trading short term profit making- for long term disaster, This smart stax (technology ) makes me nervous.

The fact that they are crossing species barriers which can not happen in nature, and the research from others that proves that a single change in a genetic code sometimes results in more than the intended single trait change (unintended changes, in the modified organism) and now they are going to stack these ,non nature possible manipulations, most of the (limited) research documentation is provided by the corporation, I just hope the UGLY combo doesn't show up a year or two after they allow this stax technology out into nature Up to 8 gene traits added?? weed resistance to the old product up by 80% also bug resistance down, are they creating super weeds and bugs, if only to their own products.

Maybe more controlled testing is needed by impartial parties...before releasing this into the wild world of nature...