Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available?

[farmgirl19]

Thanks for posting that. I watched the whole 46 minutes! It's like you can't take your eyes off a train wreck.

Yiu're welcome. And, I believe he is one of the leading geneticist, so not just an *average* concerned person.

 

[jinman]

I have to admit that I don't get it.:confused3: At no time in history has average life expectancy been better than today. A simple graph such as this one supports this completely. If you want to look at more current data and projections for the future, try this link (it's long). If you want to use methods of the past and/or eat only organically grown food, good for you. Nobody will stop you if you can afford it.

I understand arguments about business ethics and questionable practices by chemical companies. I think those arguments are separate from arguments that say our food is dangerous. History just doesn't show this to be true.

 

[farmgirl19]

Actually, the children being born today, have a lower life expectancy, than their parents and grandparents. First time in decades that has been the case.

 

[sixdogs]

jinman---yes, the gain in life expectancy seems to be accelerating in both the US and the world.

United States - Life expectancy at birth - Historical Data Graphs per Year

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Actually, the children being born today, have a lower life expectancy, than their parents and grandparents. First time in decades that has been the case.

Where did you find this information?

 

[DFB]

I dont know how this can be graphed into overall life expectancy at all yet since the most of the gene splicing technology like BT insect protection has only recently been introduced into the food chain. Other technologies over a couple of decades at best. I think the genectic roulette documentry raises some valid questions especially when it comes to what is fed to livestock. Obviously its a personal choice to either try learn what exactly is the real truth is or simply choose to ignore it

 

[dave1949]

I have to admit that I don't get it.:confused3: At no time in history has average life expectancy been better than today. A simple graph such as this one supports this completely. If you want to look at more current data and projections for the future, try this link (it's long). If you want to use methods of the past and/or eat only organically grown food, good for you. Nobody will stop you if you can afford it.

I understand arguments about business ethics and questionable practices by chemical companies. I think those arguments are separate from arguments that say our food is dangerous. History just doesn't show this to be true.

Actually, they will and are, as a side effect of GM technology escaping into organic farms ... which are then no longer organic certified.

I too think you are drawing a conclusion based upon past history and projecting that into the future, while ignoring new data; the difference between traditional plant development and the new possibilities of GM. We have no history of GM food stocks and their intermediate or long-term impact on the population to speak of.

I find the prospect of GM trees even scarier than GM grains due to the potential huge environmental impact. A gene (the terminator gene that makes trees sterile) escaping into the wild is entirely possible. Just like the GM pollen that crosses into neighboring non-GM fields, you can't stop tree pollen at a property line. The Monsanto's of the world know this. It explains why they are trying to cover their butts in advance with legislation such as the so-called "Monsanto Protection Act." Why do you think they need this?

An off the wall example of genetic modification is this:
Glow-in-the-dark Sheep: Genetically Modified At Uruguay Lab [VIDEO] : Animals : Nature World News

Sheep with jellyfish genes. Obviously, the limits are unknown. If we don't know the limits, then it seems a bit of hubris to think we know all the potential side effects.

As farmgirl mentioned, the narrator of the video she linked is Dr. David Suzuki. Okay, he has a perspective, as does anyone, but that doesn't mean he is not worth listening too. He was a college professor of genetics for almost 40 years. He sees dangers, the video describes those dangers that are now developing.

GM technology is not an inconsequential topic.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

I have to admit that I don't get it.:confused3: At no time in history has average life expectancy been better than today. A simple graph such as this one supports this completely. If you want to look at more current data and projections for the future, try this link (it's long). If you want to use methods of the past and/or eat only organically grown food, good for you. Nobody will stop you if you can afford it.

I understand arguments about business ethics and questionable practices by chemical companies. I think those arguments are separate from arguments that say our food is dangerous. History just doesn't show this to be true.

Google "Autism Roundup" More than a couple studies showing otherwise. Here's the first on that popped up: https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/04/26-3

In the 1950s about 2 in 10,000 babies were diagnosed with autism. 2012 rates were 1 in 88.

 

[DFB]

You know another point that's just being glazed over is one of glysophate's original use in produce farming was mainly to kill the sod before plowing under. There was also a time required between its application and planting your crops allowing for the herbicide to work then begin to break down and limit its translocation to non target. Now that its being applied directly to the engineered resistant crop it would be hard to believe that it would not be absorbed up by the plants themselves.

This is what the NIPC says about roundup usage and conventional (non glysophate resistant) plants


The National Pesticide Information Center (NPIC) advises that the active chemicals in Roundup do not spread through the soil, and so only the area that you treat directly will be dangerous for planting.
If you were to plant vegetables sooner than three days after applying Roundup, you run the risk of the vegetables absorbing this glyphosate and dying along with the weeds

 

[dave1949]

Life expectancy:

Study shows declining life span for some US women | Fox News

U.S. Women's Life Expectancy Declining

Life expectancy declining in many parts of US - World Socialist Web Site

The income gap plays out in U.S. life expectancy | MinnPost

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/21/u...s-in-us-is-shrinking.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


Life expectancy is changing, primarily for southern white women with low education attainment, and possibly due to increased smoking and obesity.

Obesity could be related to changes in nutrition. Fat and sugar are so prominent in many products, you have to know the dangers and work to avoid them. I think that is one of the messages in Honey Boo Boo.

I shouldn't joke about it, I know. It is sad to see a segment of our population backsliding.