Good morning!!!!

[farmgirl19]

That is not entirely correct. A lot of the experts that teach cholesterol is bad also teach that medicine is bad, and to reduce it by diet not medicine. FG you should really go to Houston for a day and speak to the Cardiologist that are showing results of improved heart function on the WFPB diet I can give you their names, location, e-mails and they would be happy to explain how their non medicine way is working. Your referenced Dr. (who has the WF right but ignores the PB) will not address these Doctors that have been showing results for 20 years, so why, I guess so he can sell his Denmark books.

Txdon; I am not into things to create contention, so will not reply to each individual post. I think a cholesterol below 200 is unsafe, in older individuals. (And total cholesterol of less than 100 is downright unsafe!) I think perfect is 200-250, but will not be drawn into an argument over the issue. I appreciate the fact you show respect too.

Have a great weekend, y'all!

 

[brin]

Txdon; I am not into things to create contention, so will not reply to each individual post. I think a cholesterol below 200 is unsafe, in older individuals. (And total cholesterol of less than 100 is downright unsafe!) I think perfect is 200-250, but will not be drawn into an argument over the issue. I appreciate the fact you show respect too.

Have a great weekend, y'all!

I agree with you...and everyone's genes are different....There are some men I have read about that drank moonshine and ate fatty foods all their life and lived to be in their 90's or beyond, then there are those who die of heart attack at 18 yrs. old on the football field or jogging...We are all different and no one diet best for everyone. I believe we all need essential oils and fats...I don't think we need the processed foods with all the chemicals added but natural foods....all meats, seafood , oils , Dairy etc. are fine...and essential but that is just me...what do I know ? :confused3:

 

[txdon]

Txdon; I am not into things to create contention, so will not reply to each individual post. I think a cholesterol below 200 is unsafe, in older individuals. (And total cholesterol of less than 100 is downright unsafe!) I think perfect is 200-250, but will not be drawn into an argument over the issue. I appreciate the fact you show respect too.

Have a great weekend, y'all!

Yep, me neither but we definitely see cholesterol through different glasses. I'm glad you use the words "I think" so everyone knows it is your opinion based on your personal experience and knowledge. And thats OK as long as it is given as such. I respect your opinion, I just would not bet MY life on it.

Just to clean my palate and for the American Heart Association:
Cholesterol level:
Less than 200 mg/dL - Desirable level that puts you at lower risk for coronary heart disease.
200 to 239 mg/dL - Borderline high
240 mg/dL and above- High blood cholesterol. A person with this level has more than twice the risk of coronary heart disease as someone whose cholesterol is below 200 mg/dL.

I suspect you are getting your information from U Ravnskov.

He did not pass peer review in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/6/1551.full.pdf

But it really does not matter, you are probably the 50% (like my brother) that no matter what you eat, heart disease will not initiate in your body. Stay well, and I say it with all my WFPB improved heart.

 

[MossflowerWoods]

David (Moss) I keep thinking of that episode on the series "Breaking Bad" Where the separated husband just moved back into his house in a different room. He was very polite to his wife but made it clear that it was his house also. She called the police but without any threats or violence there was nothing they could do without a court order. Is it just an agreement between the two of you are is there a court order?

But of course that is Hollywood, and it fit in the plot of the show, real life situations may be different. (No need to answer. Anything you say can and will be used against you in open forum.)

Does anyone else remember that episode?

Don,

We have just an agreement, and she has changed the rules more than once.

She would never allow it, and if the police get involved it can affect my security clearances even if I do no wrong.

All I can do is surrender and await God's Will in this... My wife is immovable...

David

 

[sixdogs]

Farm auctions are something in Ohio that I miss. Hardly any farm auctions here.

Well, if you see any be sure to go because my experience in a lesser-populated area than you in Maine was that they have to almost give stuff away to get people to take it. Prices were cheaper than dirt. It was depressing just to watch the sellers get a low-ball price. I would hope things are different in your area but I know it's a small town.

 

[farmgirl19]

Txdon; I will call it my opinion, as long as you call it yours. I am not here to create an issue, but if you want to call mine opinion, and yours fact, it could make an issue. As it is, I'll try to take the "avoid posting on the subject" attitude, except when things are blatently wrong, or massively debatable. I do believe that much of what is being pushed on us out there now is not proven, but am not here to make an issue, as I've stated.

 

[txdon]

GF19, You called yours opinion by stating "I think" and I just stated the AHA guidelines. Let's keep this professional and reference all facts. That way we can debate each other's factual references, which is what we are really doing, that will keep it non personal.
On a personal level, I completely admire the fact that you have not eaten fast foods for 20 years - you are my model that it can be done. You are the queen of Whole Foods.:thumbsup:

 

[djp1218]

Hang tight David there will be plenty of time to play hard ball later if it comes to that but i do like Dons idea i have known guys who have done just that and have not budged saying that they couldnt pay for 2 places. Ploblem being that the first time you raise your voice she will claim that she is feeling threatened nevermind if you should happen to bump into eachother going down the hall or something in a nutshell you know her best and know what the best road to take is and with any luck all the roads wont be dead ends and one piece of advice that my mother always gave me is to never bight off your nose to spite your face i try to remember that

 

[brin]

David...Is she losing weight or changing in any other way...? Consider hiring a PI right away...Private Investigator..

 

[djp1218]

Bob its when they come home from getting a body waxing and say" honey you really should go on a fishing trip with your buddies" that you have to worry