More ethanol

[Soundguy]

and IF we are gonna use ehtanol? why corn? why not switchgrass.. or some other bio product. liek a waste product.

I know hte corn for ethanol is not animal or human feed corn. but the land it;s grown on.. I can imagine USED to be for feedstuffs. menaing the price of feedstuff corn goes UP.. meaning everything else down the chain goes up.

look at other countries that do ethanol.. see a lot of corn do ya?

 

[dgeesaman]

This just sounds like another good ole boy back room deal that has more of an economic impact than an actual one.

It is. Yet another reason we should stop using the term "lobbying" and correctly refer to it as corruption.

David

 

[arrow]

It is. Yet another reason we should stop using the term "lobbying" and correctly refer to it as corruption.

David

Don't you know the mantra in Washington? "Do as I say..not as I do and only if I get some cash slid my way" You and I would go to jail if we did the same things like insider trading and making deals like ethanol where only a select few are making bucks at others expense. I think they call it legalized corruption so its perfectly ok. My next plan is to contact my local tv station and attempt to get them to depict this corruption that is supposed to be so good for us much like they do when they report on the local corruption. Perhaps a ground swell would start. Writing to the bums in office is like giving the wolf Little Red Riding Hood's scent whose lost in the woods and telling him "find boy find"

 

[Midniteoyl]

. Currently most ethanol blended gas is E10 or 10% ethanol. We are now headed for E85 or a 15% blend that some areas already have. I had to laugh when I read about an interview of a Jeff Broin who is of the ceo of the largest ethanol producing plant in America. He stated he'd like to see gas at a 20% blend. When asked what will millions of small engine owners who are having trouble with E10 do with E85 0r E80 gas, he stated that he sees ethanol blends being chosen by the consumer much like octane rates are. Really. If you had a "choice" of ethanol blend, which would you regularly choose? The added cost of the special pumps with blending capabilities will add another $20K for the pumps. All of which will be borne by the consumer of course. To think, we have ethanol because George B the second passed an energy independence bill in 2007 and every senator and congressman in the corn belt conferred and agreed with. (what else would they do?). A few questions: If we get less mpg with ethanol blended gas, does the extra burning of more fuel offset advantages of less air pollution and fuel usage? 2.If primarily we have this stuff because one of its attributes was lessening of air pollution in big cities, why is the stuff all over the country? 3. With cars becoming more fuel efficient which means burn efficient, why are we continuing to bother with anything added to gas? 4. How much has our energy dependence on oil been reduced with ethanol? This just sounds like another good ole boy back room deal that has more of an economic impact than an actual one. I'm jaded and prejudiced to ethanol because of the political aspect and question its viability because of its performance or lack thereof characteristics. To me, it lies in the same bed as that other woefully inadequate No Child Left Behind government edict. How do we reduce our dependance by adding a substance that gets us as much as a 10%-20% decline in mpg?

E85 is not 15% ethanol, its 85%. E15 is 15%.. Please, do NOT confuse the E85 at the pumps now as ok for non-flex fuel engines! E85 will not work, E15 will..

 

[arrow]

You're right midnite. Totally different fuels. I got so angry when I first read this that the epa has already given the go ahead for E15 I lost my head. This is as much of an abomination as anything else the epa has perpetrated upon us.

 

[catfishdaddyengineering]

I feel like sending a bill to D.C. for every piece of equipment that I have had to work on this year. The kids' gokart, the tiller, and now the weedwacker. Had to order a carb kit from a guy in England because the $150 Cub Cadet had a Chinese carb on it. Fired up great, but then the gas lines broke. I just replaced them last year and they were clear. They are dirty brown from one year of use and broke!!