Is the Mahindra Max really a SCUT

[XSKIER]

Look here, at least they don't compare the max to a 50 year old tractor... Jack!

 

[94BULLITT]

This really bugs the heck out of you, don't it. I would not be so worried about this crap. Lifes too short.
Um read your chart again, it also weighs less. Who Classifys these anyway?

What is to you?:confused3: This part of the forum is for buying, pricing, and comparisons. I believe this would fall under comparisons.

You need to read the chart again.

The B2620 is the lightest 1554.
The Max25 is 2 lightest 1693.
The Boomer 25 is 1702.
The 2520 is 1865.
The 1526 is 1873.
The CK20HST is 2138.

The max25 is lacking 10lbs of being in 4th place and 73lbs of being in 3rd place. I say it falls in the average weight of this size tractor.

I'll admit it bugged the crap out of me when they first came out with it, calling it an SCUT, and comparing it to the MF GC, BX, Deere 10 series etc.

But it seems they came up with a new classification. Mid-cut. And are now comparing it to larger tractors.

IT dont bug me as much anymore.

Bottom line is, as a shopper, you have to do your homework and look through all the smoke and mirrors and look at whats important to you. You can take 10 Tractors of 10 makes in similar size, and not a single one is going to be the best at everything. And I would bet that all 10 would have at least one spec or feature that was "best in class". But certainly not all specs.

The Max28Xl is a mid compact. They call the max 22 and 25 a sub compact.

Look at it again.

Mahindra - Mahindra Tractors - Heavy Duty, Value Packed Tractors. Built Tough to Last with a 5 year Warranty

 

[LD1]

The Max28Xl is a mid compact. They call the max 22 and 25 a sub compact.

Look at it again.

Mahindra - Mahindra Tractors - Heavy Duty, Value Packed Tractors. Built Tough to Last with a 5 year Warranty

Isnt that what I said??

 

[94BULLITT]

Isnt that what I said??

No. They are still comparing it to a SCUT.

Mahindra Max 25 4WD HST - Mahindra Tractors - Heavy Duty, Value Packed Tractors. Built Tough to Last with a 5 year Warranty

I'll admit it bugged the crap out of me when they first came out with it, calling it an SCUT, and comparing it to the MF GC, BX, Deere 10 series etc.

But it seems they came up with a new classification. Mid-cut. And are now comparing it to larger tractors.

IT dont bug me as much anymore.

Bottom line is, as a shopper, you have to do your homework and look through all the smoke and mirrors and look at whats important to you. You can take 10 Tractors of 10 makes in similar size, and not a single one is going to be the best at everything. And I would bet that all 10 would have at least one spec or feature that was "best in class". But certainly not all specs.

 

[murphy1244]

No. They are still comparing it to a SCUT.

Mahindra Max 25 4WD HST - Mahindra Tractors - Heavy Duty, Value Packed Tractors. Built Tough to Last with a 5 year Warranty

Cause it is a SCUT :muttering:

 

[GManBart]

The Max28Xl is a mid CUT.

How can that be possible? The heaviest CUTs have 50hp or so, and can weigh upwards of 5k lbs. the smallest CUTs tend to have around 30hp, and weigh 2k+. The Max is nowhere near the middle of that range.

 

[aczlan]

How can that be possible? The heaviest CUTs have 50hp or so, and can weigh upwards of 5k lbs. the smallest CUTs tend to have around 30hp, and weigh 2k+. The Max is nowhere near the middle of that range.

Methinks that "Mid-CUT" is intended to mean midway between a SCUT and a CUT.

Aaron Z

 

[GManBart]

Methinks that "Mid-CUT" is intended to mean midway between a SCUT and a CUT.

Aaron Z

I think that's what they want to say, but Mid-CUT means Middle-CUT, not "midway to CUT" or something along those lines. For comparison, mid-compact car means in the middle of the compact car category, not between sub-compact, and compact.

 

[Grandad4]

The Max28Xl is a mid compact.

Mid-compact utility tractor... can we call it a MUT?

 

[dragoneggs]

Mid-compact utility tractor... can we call it a MUT?

I think the wise man nailed it!

 

[GManBart]

Mid-compact utility tractor... can we call it a MUT?

Trademark that now! Genius...

 

[Don87]

Mid-compact utility tractor... can we call it a MUT?

Yes...............MUT

Mahindra Underpowered Tractor


With a 16HO PTO..........might as well stay on the porch and let the big dogs play.

 

[aczlan]

Yes...............MUT
Mahindra Underpowered Tractor
With a 16HO PTO..........might as well stay on the porch and let the big dogs play.

That's the same as our B7500 (21 engine, 16 PTO) and it gets along very well. Struggles pushing a 60" deck in heavy weeds or grass, but it will out-mow the BX2660 in light/short grass (higher ground speed) and it runs out of traction before it runs out of power for loader or ground engaging work.

Aaron Z

 

[Don87]

That's the same as our B7500 (21 engine, 16 PTO) and it gets along very well. Struggles pushing a 60" deck in heavy weeds or grass, but it will out-mow the BX2660 in light/short grass (higher ground speed) and it runs out of traction before it runs out of power for loader or ground engaging work.

Aaron Z

Dunno what to say to you my friend, except that a Farmall Cub would outpull most every low HP tractor on the market today............and I think most of them only had 10 to 12 drawbar HP.

The only point I'm making(and I think 94bullit is also), is that Mahindra used their old design, added an engine with a higher HP rating........then changed it from a CUT to a SUBCUT.

Going by the specs of all other subcuts on the market, Mahindra has the least PTO HP at the highest price. Granted they have the highest capacity of payload for the FEL though.............but then one needs to bring into the equation of stability..........weight of machine/ load/width..............I'm skeptical

While the Mahindra's 50 inch width beats Kubota's 44 inch by a large margin...........I gotta consider my 48 inch as opposed to Mahindra's 50 inch. And I'm sorry, with that much difference in lift capacity.........and only 2 inches in width...........I just don't see the 'operator safety' factored in here.

Maybe I'm way off base here................but I've had my Massey(with a much lower lift capacity than the Mahindra Max)in positions that a heavier weight on the FEL could have killed me!

 

[jenkinsph]

Don,
I agree with you about high fel capacities can be dangerous in some cases. Same with the three point hitch capacity it is easy to have a higher rating than the tractor can deal with in the real world.

 

[Don87]

Don,
I agree with you about high fel capacities can be dangerous in some cases. Same with the three point hitch capacity it is easy to have a higher rating than the tractor can deal with in the real world.

I've heard of people putting 5 foot implements on those Mahindra Max tractors. I'm unsure of the wisdom of this approach, given the 16HP PTO, and the light weight of the tractor.

 

[Grandad4]

That's a fair point, Don, especially when you consider there must be many first time owners with little to no experience who are buying these small tractors.

 

[Don87]

That's a fair point, Don, especially when you consider there must be many first time owners with little to no experience who are buying these small tractors.

That is predominately what I've seen.

 

[aczlan]

I've heard of people putting 5 foot implements on those Mahindra Max tractors. I'm unsure of the wisdom of this approach, given the 16HP PTO, and the light weight of the tractor.

Why would that be a problem? Underpowered, yes, but dangerous? Its almost the same size (4" longer) and weight (~100# lighter) as a B2630...
As for width, five foot what? We run a 5 foot tiller behind our B7500 and as long as you go slow, its fine. We also (on occasion) run a 5' bush hog behind it. Have to have the loader on with the bush hog (for front counterweight) but it does good as long as you pay attention to the engine and dont let it lug (unlike the L3830 which cuts passably well with the same cutter at ~11 MPH in 12" grass and weeds).
Would I buy it with PTO work in mind? No, but if you going to do mostly loader work and little or no heavy PTO work, it should work fine.

Aaron Z

 

[check]

I've got dibs on "scute"! (Hey, it worked for the auto companies.$