we are a dying breed

[sam5570]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

I stopped hunting for many years as I lived where there were no game animals and to hunt elsewhere prohibitively expensive. Now that my son is old enough he wanted to go and that got me started again. But 'expensive' barely scratches the surface of what it takes to get up and hunting again. I know when I was a teenager I hunted with my Dad's stuff that he had accumulated over the years and it really didn't cost me any more than tags and gas. But equipping 2 hunters with rifles, clothes, boots, knives etc etc etc could have bought a couple of cows already wrapped up in neat little frozen packages However, I look at it as a teachable skill that everyone should be at least basically familiar with and besides, he wants to do it. Never know when it might come in handy.

We ride and race dirtbikes. I have had more than a few conversations with people around getting 'stuck' on the trail for a night (not making it out before dark). Most bikes do not have headlights and they don't help much in the mountains even if your bike is equipped. To me the thought of having to hunker down for a night in the woods doesn't even make me blink. Cut some pine bows, snuggle in with your foil blanket and go to sleep. If it is cold and you have a good enough saw or are packing a chainsaw for trail clearing, make a long-log fire. For most people this is totally unthinkable. A single night in the woods== near death experience in their minds. And these are people who regularly ride this type of terrain.

thats a great story Charlz, we youst to as kids take our sleeping bag go up in the woods and camp for the night we would get a piece of plastic out of the barn to put or sleeping bags on. best part is you are back in the woods hunting with your son thats great. and yes it is expensive to get started

 

[sam5570]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Anyone remember the game of "Red Rover Red Rover send some one over."
And who tried was blocked by others holding hands.
Merry go rounds and swings ,slides , races running bare footed on cinder tracks.

Or children allowed to ride there bike what ever distance they wanted just be home by supper time. and be gone all day .

ken

all of the above very well

 

[Ken]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

all of the above very well

And before going on a all day trip the morning chores of milking feeding the hogs and chickens making sure the cooking wood box was full then going riding
Had to be back home in time for the evening chores.
All day sometime with out shoes and shirt. The paper bag a slice of bread and cheese was enough for noon lunch.
Then come Sat. the afternoon movies rode our bikes parked them in provided slot with out locks and with a 50 cent piece movie ticket, pop corn and bottle of pop. and candy bar. may had money left over.

ken

 

[TomSeller]

the local rural paper each year there are always several pictures of a kid next to a dead deer. I guess it's suppose to be news, but how much effort was made to squeeze a trigger at a deere you have been feeding all year long.

I don't have respect for the hunting farms. Those that feed the game animals all year and let them out for the city slicker fat cat to shoot. That is not hunting.

 

[Larro Darro]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

I don't have respect for the hunting farms. Those that feed the game animals all year and let them out for the city slicker fat cat to shoot. That is not hunting.

My ex boss has two sons that were pretty young when I first started at my job. Part of my job back then was walking them over from the school every afternoon. One day the youngest one had to tell me the story of him killing his first deer over the weekend. I ask him if he was in a tree stand when he shot her. {it was a doe} He said, "no, I was throwing hay out the back of the truck, and when they all ran up, I shot her." Later on when he had killed a few from the tree stand, he wouldn't admit to shooting the tame one.

Larro

 

[forgeblast]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

I bet Eddie Walker remembers the 5 o'clock whistle.....
We had the 6pm civil defense whistle (actually the fire company) that would blow every night. You heard that you were ridding your bike as fast as you could home.
PA is starting to do mentored youth hunts, and fish for free days.

 

[sam5570]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

And before going on a all day trip the morning chores of milking feeding the hogs and chickens making sure the cooking wood box was full then going riding
Had to be back home in time for the evening chores.
All day sometime with out shoes and shirt. The paper bag a slice of bread and cheese was enough for noon lunch.
Then come Sat. the afternoon movies rode our bikes parked them in provided slot with out locks and with a 50 cent piece movie ticket, pop corn and bottle of pop. and candy bar. may had money left over.

ken

yep milk between 9 and 13 cows by hand before went to school, and again when got home from school. in early fall there was time to get that done grab shotgun and run up in the mountain sit for little bit and shot some squirrel's. and here's what a dollar would get me on saterday night 25 cent cigs- 25 cents to see movie 10 cent drink and 10 cent box popcorn.wow last movie i went to i think that it cost between $7 and $8 for a ticket. on our way to a wedding saterday we drove thru the mountains for about 30 minutes and seen 1 vehicle parked bow hunting, that was opening day

 

[Egbert]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Sorry - but I've just been "dying" to say "dyeing" is about coloring. To say we are a "dyeing" breed is to say we all love to color things

 

[txdon]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

Don't the kids realize that once they become a "Sportsman" they can mess with animal's blood and guts (after the animal stops moving, and it may need a little help stopping) and learn that their food comes from muscle (mostly) and they can wear t-shirts like this (no gun on shirt - so school safe) and strut their stuff.

products new home - "Hey Vegetarians, My Food Poops on Your Food!" - Whitetail Deer Hunting T-Shirt

They can also get strong like these guys!
Hans and Franz - Pump You Up - YouTube

 

[dave1949]

Re: we are a dyeing breed

I don't have respect for the hunting farms. Those that feed the game animals all year and let them out for the city slicker fat cat to shoot. That is not hunting.

Most Maine hunting laws that decide what are legal hunting methods and what are not, involve the idea of "fair chase." There is supposed to be fair chase, or some measure of skillful hunting involved.

We are beginning Round Two of the debate and statewide referendum vote on whether hunting over bait (old bakery goods mostly) meets the "fair chase" standard, or whether that can or should be applied to bear hunting.

These are the current regulations:

Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife - Bear Hunting
Bear Hunting Laws and Rules
Bait may not be used to hunt for bear from September 23, 2013 to November 30, 2013.

Hunting with the use of bait is defined as hunting from an observation stand, blind or other location which overlooks any bait or food except standing crops and foods that have been left as a result of normal agricultural operations or natural occurrence. “Bear Bait” means any animal or plant, or derivative of an animal or plant, used to attract bear. “Bear bait” does not include any packaging or container materials that fall within the definition of litter under Title 17, §2263.

Bait may not be used to hunt or trap black bear unless:

The bait is placed at least 50 yards from any travel way that is accessible by a conventional 2-wheel or 4-wheel drive vehicle;
The stand, blind, or bait area is plainly labeled with a 2 inch by 4 inch tag with the name and address of the baiter;
The bait is placed more than 500 yards from any solid waste disposal site or campground;
The bait is placed more than 500 yards from an occupied dwelling, unless written permission is granted by the owner or leasee;
The bait is placed not more than 30 days before the opening day of the season and not after October 31st;
The bait areas will be cleaned up by November 10th as defined by the State litter laws; and
The person hunting from any stand or blind of another person has permission of the owner of that stand or blind.