Need to find survey marker rod!

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I have a new version of the yellow sticks with digital display.

There's no telling how deep it will go with 60' of 4" well casing.

I paid around $700.00 in 1976, if you don't mind telling me, what did you have to give for yours and in what year?

 

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I confess that I find the nature of this thread to be disturbing... I can see accidently disturbing a corner, but destroying it to this extent?

If you had carefully read the first sentence of this thread's original post you would know what happened, and it has nothing to do with destroying anything.
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J_J, thanks for the link. I believe it was something like what the pic shows- it was quite a while ago, so it's difficult to know exactly what he used.

From most people's advice I will try the corner to corner measurement thing. It's a little difficult due to hills and valleys, streams, etc. but certainly worth a try.
Then I will try to use my hoe ripper tooth to loosen dirt in the area without disturbing the pin.
Any thoughts on how to compensate for hills etc. to get an accurate corner to corner distance to pinpoint the closest location?

TIA,

CM

 

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If you had carefully read the first sentence of this thread's original post you would know what happened, and it has nothing to do with destroying anything.
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J_J, thanks for the link. I believe it was something like what the pic shows- it was quite a while ago, so it's difficult to know exactly what he used.

From most people's advice I will try the corner to corner measurement thing. It's a little difficult due to hills and valleys, streams, etc. but certainly worth a try.
Then I will try to use my hoe ripper tooth to loosen dirt in the area without disturbing the pin.
Any thoughts on how to compensate for hills etc. to get an accurate corner to corner distance to pinpoint the closest location?

TIA,

CM

You backfilled onto somebody elses property and buried the corner monument under 5 feet of filll...then stated that you don't want to pay to make it right... what part did I miss? Sorry, but this is a blatant disregard for where your property ends and somebody else's begins...

 

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In answer to the rest of your post, the best way would be to mark points along your sidelines and so that you can sight down both and find where they intersect. If the sidelines aren't marked you can use a Suunto KB14 compass to carefully flag points along both lines until they intersect. You can also use a laser level to run straight lines to find the point of intersection... I wouldn't advise this to establish a corner, but since monumentation is already there you should be good to go.

 

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You backfilled onto somebody elses property and buried the corner monument under 5 feet of filll...then stated that you don't want to pay to make it right... what part did I miss? Sorry, but this is a blatant disregard for where your property ends and somebody else's begins...

Wrong, wrong and wrong. I filled in a low spot near my dirt road where the adjacent property is an abandoned road that the town abandoned years ago. Next to that is a barely maintained cemetery plot about 20 x 20' which the town has the grass cut at a few times a year. Here in VT, at least where I live, people don't sweat the details of where a marker is, other than knowing basically where one property ends and another begins.

Yes, I don't want to have to pay someone else to locate the pin if I can do it myself. Hence my inquiry into how best to accomplish same. I'm doing the pin locating to get it back where it belongs, not because someone told me or scolded me about it; instead because I want it there because it was already there. You may have heard of a concept called: 'doing the right thing' ? So stop with your bogus assumptions and accusations and let those who are interested in solving this minor problem do so.

 

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Wrong, wrong and wrong. I filled in a low spot near my dirt road where the adjacent property is an abandoned road that the town abandoned years ago. Next to that is a barely maintained cemetery plot about 20 x 20' which the town has the grass cut at a few times a year. Here in VT, at least where I live, people don't sweat the details of where a marker is, other than knowing basically where one property ends and another begins.

Yes, I don't want to have to pay someone else to locate the pin if I can do it myself. Hence my inquiry into how best to accomplish same. I'm doing the pin locating to get it back where it belongs, not because someone told me or scolded me about it; instead because I want it there because it was already there. You may have heard of a concept called: 'doing the right thing' ? So stop with your bogus assumptions and accusations and let those who are interested in solving this minor problem do so.

If you had made that clear in the first place I wouldn't have had a complaint. I assumed nothing... just went with what you had stated. In your original post you merely stated that you had buried a corner... no mention was made of roads" cemetaries" or anything else. Time and time again we see threads here about landowner disputes... often it's something which starts out small and then escalates. (Kind of like yours and my discussion)

The information which you just gave would have been beneficial in your first post to address your question. If you take the time to revisit your original post, you will see how vague it was.
Given the new information you provide it ahould be an easy matter to locate your pin; for starters, try to dtermine how wide the abandoned road R/W was and measure from the CL... assuming there are no old rock walls which are often present on the edge of those old roads. If the cemetary was ever actually delineated you maybe able to determine where the sideline intersects the road...
The suggestion about sliding a pipe over the pin is a great idea once you find it; a household magnet somehow attached to the corner is also a fantastic way to excite a metal detector should the corner ever be lost again. (The survetor I worked for used to drop one into the drillhole of a granite mon after setting it.)

 

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For the last time- I didn't post this thread to argue with anyone and if I wasn't clear enough to your liking, ask a question. You did assume things because you jumped to conclusions about my property and my adjacent neighbors without having any facts to base your assumptions on. We're not having a discussion, you're trying to run my thread, and if you don't cease I'll have it closed; thread owner's prerogative.
I wasn't vague as you put it, just succinct. I'm not looking for your or anyone else's approval, or criticism of how I detailed MY thread; you don't like it- don't read it, and by all means don't respond.
This thread isn't about landowner disputes. Try to focus on what it is about instead of reading into it things that don't apply and your own personal issues about land and this forum.

CM out :mur: ullinghair:

 

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For the last time- I didn't post this thread to argue with anyone and if I wasn't clear enough to your liking, ask a question. You did assume things because you jumped to conclusions about my property and my adjacent neighbors without having any facts to base your assumptions on. We're not having a discussion, you're trying to run my thread, and if you don't cease I'll have it closed; thread owner's prerogative.
I wasn't vague as you put it, just succinct. I'm not looking for your or anyone else's approval, or criticism of how I detailed MY thread; you don't like it- don't read it, and by all means don't respond.
This thread isn't about landowner disputes. Try to focus on what it is about instead of reading into it things that don't apply and your own personal issues about land and this forum.

CM out :mur: ullinghair:

killjoy! :laughing:

These are some of the best threads on TBN.

 

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two_bit_score, Seems like.

 

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Any thoughts on how to compensate for hills etc. to get an accurate corner to corner distance to pinpoint the closest location?

When I surveyed many years ago for the County Road Commission we used a steel chain. It was a hundred and one feet long if I remember correctly. If we had to measure up and down hills, we used a Plumb Bob to keep the chain level. Some hills required us to measure distances of less than a hundred feet at time because of the slope of the hill. Today, I see all kinds of fancy equipment along roads. Even in farmland, they are using lasers to keep things flat. Here's a link that shows a few steel chains: Surveyors Chain, 100' Chain, Reel, Steel Tape, Chain