Want a new laptop but do I want Windows 8?

[Xfaxman]

Ron, you're obviously way ahead of me. This thing is just one nightmare after another. Every time I get past one, another one pops up. Maybe in time I'll get used to it.

Bird, we need an update.

How is it going?

 

[Bird]

Bird, we need an update.

How is it going?

:laughing:I can certainly understand why lots of people hate Windows 8 & 8.1.:laughing: I just haven't spent much time on it, but I've installed Quicken and Office; just haven't put any of my data files into it yet. I can take care of my e-mail on it and routine web browsing, but I'm still using my old Windows 7 desktop mostly.

I've run into a problem that I haven't solved yet. I can go to my credit cards, utility company, etc. websites; i.e., https sites with no problem, except my credit union's website. I can go to their home page, but when I try to go to online banking, I get a red dialogue box that says:

Your browser is not capable of viewing this site because it does not support JavaScript or JavaScript may be disabled. Please enable JavaScript on your browser.

The browser, of course, is Internet Explorer 11 and works just fine on those other secure websites. I do have, supposedly, the latest version of Java (32-bit) enabled. And what I have found so far on the Internet is that if you go to "Help" in the browser and "About Internet Explorer" it's the 32-bit version unless it actually says "64-bit Version" in which case you should download the 64-bit version of Java. Well, the computer is 64-bit, but apparently the browser is 32-bit. So I've not tried downloading the 64-bit version of Java yet.

And of course, being accustomed to 9 or 10 finger typing on the old keyboard, I find the laptop keyboard a bit awkward and slow.

 

[aczlan]

:laughing:I can certainly understand why lots of people hate Windows 8 & 8.1.:laughing: I just haven't spent much time on it, but I've installed Quicken and Office; just haven't put any of my data files into it yet. I can take care of my e-mail on it and routine web browsing, but I'm still using my old Windows 7 desktop mostly.

I've run into a problem that I haven't solved yet. I can go to my credit cards, utility company, etc. websites; i.e., https sites with no problem, except my credit union's website. I can go to their home page, but when I try to go to online banking, I get a red dialogue box that says:

Your browser is not capable of viewing this site because it does not support JavaScript or JavaScript may be disabled. Please enable JavaScript on your browser.

The browser, of course, is Internet Explorer 11 and works just fine on those other secure websites. I do have, supposedly, the latest version of Java (32-bit) enabled. And what I have found so far on the Internet is that if you go to "Help" in the browser and "About Internet Explorer" it's the 32-bit version unless it actually says "64-bit Version" in which case you should download the 64-bit version of Java. Well, the computer is 64-bit, but apparently the browser is 32-bit. So I've not tried downloading the 64-bit version of Java yet.

And of course, being accustomed to 9 or 10 finger typing on the old keyboard, I find the laptop keyboard a bit awkward and slow.

The fix is to install Chrome or Firefox to replace the antiquated IE

Aaron Z

 

[pacerron]

:laughing:I can certainly understand why lots of people hate Windows 8 & 8.1.:laughing: I just haven't spent much time on it, but I've installed Quicken and Office; just haven't put any of my data files into it yet. I can take care of my e-mail on it and routine web browsing, but I'm still using my old Windows 7 desktop mostly.

I've run into a problem that I haven't solved yet. I can go to my credit cards, utility company, etc. websites; i.e., https sites with no problem, except my credit union's website. I can go to their home page, but when I try to go to online banking, I get a red dialogue box that says:

Your browser is not capable of viewing this site because it does not support JavaScript or JavaScript may be disabled. Please enable JavaScript on your browser.

The browser, of course, is Internet Explorer 11 and works just fine on those other secure websites. I do have, supposedly, the latest version of Java (32-bit) enabled. And what I have found so far on the Internet is that if you go to "Help" in the browser and "About Internet Explorer" it's the 32-bit version unless it actually says "64-bit Version" in which case you should download the 64-bit version of Java. Well, the computer is 64-bit, but apparently the browser is 32-bit. So I've not tried downloading the 64-bit version of Java yet.

And of course, being accustomed to 9 or 10 finger typing on the old keyboard, I find the laptop keyboard a bit awkward and slow.

Bird,
Be careful about the Java message you got.
The safe way to handle Java, if you need it for a site, is to go to java.com: Java + You
There is a tab there that will test your pc to see if it has the latest version and if you don't it will let you download and install what you need from there. Don't ever download java from anywhere but java.com.
Even though your pc is 64 bit there are very few programs that use it. Photoshop and some other memory hungry programs use it.
The 64 bit gets past the 4 GB RAM obstacle and lets more be used if installed.
You notice on your windows 7 that there are two versions of IE. For all practical purposes you are using the 32 bit version.

You can add the data from your W-7 to the W-8.1 by transferring it via your WIFI.
You can also view the data, copy it, change it, save it to to your new pc or leave it on the W-7 and work on it from the W-8.1 machine.
With both machines on, look in My Computer in your W-7 or W-8.1 machine, down at the bottom left where it says Network.
You should see all machines that are on listed there, unless your SIL didn't Group them when he set you up.
If you are on your W-7 machine, click on the W.8.1 machine name. It may ask you for a password or take you directly to the folders depending on how it is set up.
On 8.1 you can go to your 7 machine, so you really don't have to transfer all the data to your new hard drive if you don't want to if you are planning to run both on the network. Still have a back up someplace though.
Ron

 

[Xfaxman]

JavaScript is different than Java.
How is JavaScript different from Java?

 

[Bird]

JavaScript is different than Java.
How is JavaScript different from Java?

OK, so how do I get JavaScript and enable it?

 

[Midniteoyl]

:laughing:I can certainly understand why lots of people hate Windows 8 & 8.1.:laughing: I just haven't spent much time on it, but I've installed Quicken and Office; just haven't put any of my data files into it yet. I can take care of my e-mail on it and routine web browsing, but I'm still using my old Windows 7 desktop mostly.

I've run into a problem that I haven't solved yet. I can go to my credit cards, utility company, etc. websites; i.e., https sites with no problem, except my credit union's website. I can go to their home page, but when I try to go to online banking, I get a red dialogue box that says:

Your browser is not capable of viewing this site because it does not support JavaScript or JavaScript may be disabled. Please enable JavaScript on your browser.

The browser, of course, is Internet Explorer 11 and works just fine on those other secure websites. I do have, supposedly, the latest version of Java (32-bit) enabled. And what I have found so far on the Internet is that if you go to "Help" in the browser and "About Internet Explorer" it's the 32-bit version unless it actually says "64-bit Version" in which case you should download the 64-bit version of Java. Well, the computer is 64-bit, but apparently the browser is 32-bit. So I've not tried downloading the 64-bit version of Java yet.

And of course, being accustomed to 9 or 10 finger typing on the old keyboard, I find the laptop keyboard a bit awkward and slow.

Java is NOT JavaScript..

In IE 11, goto 'Tools' (the gear in the upper right), then 'Safety' and uncheck 'ActiveX Filtering'.. This does pretty much what 'NoScripts' does in Firefire fox.

As for 32bit or 64bit Java, you want the version your PC is running, NOT what IE is. So, unless you upgraded an older version of XP or W7, you would most likely need the 64bit Java... But then, I dont run Java and its VERY VERY bad for security

 

[Bird]

The fix is to install Chrome or Firefox to replace the antiquated IE

Aaron Z

In other words, add another level of software to try to learn?:laughing:

 

[Bird]

Java is NOT JavaScript..

In IE 11, goto 'Tools' (the gear in the upper right), then 'Safety' and uncheck 'ActiveX Filtering'.. This does pretty much what 'NoScripts' does in Firefire fox.

As for 32bit or 64bit Java, you want the version your PC is running, NOT what IE is. So, unless you upgraded an older version of XP or W7, you would most likely need the 64bit Java... But then, I dont run Java and its VERY VERY bad for security

The ActiveX Filtering was already unchecked.

And I'd been told the opposite on 64 vs. 32 bit.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Then you need to write that company and tell them to update their software.. IE is NOT an 'antiquated' browser...