Can I haul a 50hp tractor with a Ram 1500?

[dodge man]

If this is his truck


Dodge Towing Guide - By Vehicle Results

If that's similar to his truck, I would say he shouldn't be towing that load with it.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I don't know that the frames are different but you are right about the heavier suspension, probably heavier duty tires (often 1/2 ton trucks today are designed for car type comfort). Gary Fowler was wrong to say there is no difference except an extra spring. I've been there, and there was definitely a difference in handling the identical load between a half ton and a 3/4 ton truck.

That brings up another issue: tires and axle weights. For any kind of safety, weigh the entire rig (each axle) and make sure the tires are not overloaded and you are within the manufacturer's axle ratings. You do not want to have a blow out from an overloaded tire hauling a rig like this. There are plenty of pictures on the net of overturned pickups and trailers when something goes wrong.View attachment 350410

Also, check your tire pressures and make sure they are maxed up when heavily loaded.

I didn't say there was no difference in the truck which has heavier components like axles, brakes and springs. It has been a few years but last time I compared 3/4 ton to 1/2 ton there was no difference in GVW between the two, however towing capacity changes and the 3/4 ton weighs more but GVW is the same so you can actually tow less with a 3/4 than a 1/2 ton. Someone with nothing else to do could look up current truck specs and compare them to see if they have changed in the last 10 years.

 

[hslogger]

The little voice says," If you think it might not be a good idea, you are probably right"
Everyone has gone down the road watching out for some dude in a totally over taxed over weight set up, thanking their lucky stars it aint them.

 

[RobertN]

Check your weights closer; I think your numbers may be low as pointed out by others(tractor, FEL, mower, loaded tires, trailer etc.

You may need to look at bigger trailer for 50HP tractor. Mine is 40hp, and I still use the 16' trailer I got with my old tractor that was much smaller. I can barely fit the tractor on the trailer; I barely have room to load the tractor for good weight distribution. I mow at my parents house 30 miles away; since getting the this tractor(NH TC40D), I have had to put my mower on a separate trailer, and jockey the two down to parents property.

I don't think you will find a good balance of 50hp tractor AND mower on a 20' trailer. I run a 6' rotary mower; it hangs off the back of the tractor quite a bit... That is really long to both fit on a 20' trailer AND balance the weight.

Also, think about your tools, fuel cans, ice chest, chains/binders etc when figuring weight. Most likely you are in the weight disti hitch range too...

 

[joshuabardwell]

Breaking down the weight... Let's say the tractor is 5000 lbs. Would be nice to have an actual model number to look up the actual weight, but whatever. 5k for the tractor plus 500 lbs for the cutter = 5.5k. How heavy is the trailer? My 16' utility trailer is about 1.6k, but you're way out of that range. For one thing, you're using a car/equpiment hauler, not a utility trailer, and for another, you're going to want to be closer to 20' than 16' for good balance. So let's say your trailer is in the 2.5k range, and maybe 3k. You're now around 8k to 8.5k GVWR. I just checked Dodge's web site, and the current model year 1500s are all rated for 8,800 lbs towing, so it's not out of the question that you could tow that tractor with that truck, but boy, you'd be right on the edge. If I didn't have to tow very often, I might do it, but it'd be a white-knuckle experience every time.

 

[RobertN]

OP stated he wanted to mow; I still don't think he'll get at 50HP tractor, and a rotary mower on a 20' trailer. My 6' mower is more like 7-8' with the tailwheel. Without a loader, he might fit on a 20' trailer, but barely and without room to balance the load.

I need to get a bigger trailer; I still use my 16', but all that will fit is my tractor(40HP NH). Adding the 7-8' for mower/tailwheel, I don't think a 20' will be enough...

My book lists my TC40 at 120"/10'. Add 8' for the mower/tailwheel, and I am already pushing 18'. That does not leave much room to balance the tractor on the trailer.

Per the book, I'm 4230lb tractor and filled tires. Educated guess a 50HP tractor will be more.

and for another, you're going to want to be closer to 20' than 16' for good balance.

 

[Green Power]

Would be nice to have an actual model number to look up the actual weight,

On page two the OP said that he was going to get a Mahindra 5010.

 

[kenmac]

I just checked Dodge's web site, and the current model year 1500s are all rated for 8,800 lbs towing

He said his truck is a 2008 4x4 hemi. If that's the case. the link I provided states his GCWR is 10,700 it also list towing at 5,050lbs with 392 axle ratio

 

[joshuabardwell]

He said his truck is a 2008 4x4 hemi. If that's the case. the link I provided states his GCWR is 10,700 it also list towing at 5,050lbs with 392 axle ratio

Sorry--I missed that. If he's got a GCWR of 10.7k, there ain't no way he's towing this load. The tow rating on that truck is in the neighborhood of 6k. Again: no way. The loaded trailer alone is nearly 80% of his GCWR.

Tractordata says the 5010 is around 4100 lbs with a cab and no loader. So 5k for one with a loader is probably about right.

 

[aczlan]

Tractordata says the 5010 is around 4100 lbs with a cab and no loader. So 5k for one with a loader is probably about right.

Plus 1000# for loaded rear tires (assuming AG tires, more if R4s).

Aaron Z