1952 Ford 8N 302 v8 conversion

[wploetz]

Working on my 8N Awesome Henry 302 V8 conversion. Still have not got the motor running.

Plan was to start it today but we ran into what we thought might be a ringgear problem even though Don at Awesome Henry says this has never caused a problem and all his flywheels are built this way.

Starter howls - the awesome henry ringgear has the almost square cut towards the starter drive gear.
Shouldn't the beveled side of the ringgear face the starter drive gear?
Could that be the source of the howl?

This happens whether the motor is bolted to the tranny or not so the eliminates the pilot bearing.
Happens with old and new starter. Starters run quiet off the tractor.
No bolts are hitting anything and motor turns freely by hand with the plugs pulled.

Problem Solved!!!

I have the 164 tooth manual flywheel with the auto old style starter and I just figured out the problem. The kit included a 3/8" spacer to use the auto starter on the manual flywheel. Turns out I needed a 5/8" spacer. I tested my theory with a couple of washers and the howling went away. The inside of the bendix was touching the front of the flywheel when it spun out in the active mode. Nothing that 6 hours of debugging, disassembly, reassembly, repeat 5 times couldn't solve.
Turns out the cut of the ringgear teeth was not the issue.

 

[milkman636]

Sweet! Overcoming some frustration adds to the feeling of accomplishment. Looking forward to seeing some video of it moving.

 

[Soundguy]

to bad the kit didn't have that info!

 

[DaveOmak]

Working on my 8N Awesome Henry 302 V8 conversion.

Problem Solved!!!

I have the 164 tooth manual flywheel with the auto old style starter and I just figured out the problem. The kit included a 3/8" spacer to use the auto starter on the manual flywheel. Turns out I needed a 5/8" spacer. I tested my theory with a couple of washers and the howling went away. The inside of the bendix was touching the front of the flywheel when it spun out in the active mode. Nothing that 6 hours of debugging, disassembly, reassembly, repeat 5 times couldn't solve.
Turns out the cut of the ringgear teeth was not the issue.

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It's a great feeling of satisfaction, when you can figure stuff like that out.... Genius, pure genius........

Dave

 

[wploetz]

Awesome Henry V8 302 conversion Starter Problem and fix
No genius here, some say I am just very persistent!!
Here are the pix of the problem and the fix.


Note: I also enlarged the top mounting hole by 1/16" on the starter itself as the starter drive gear was awfully tight to the ring gear. This allowed me to pivot the starter just a smidgeon away from the ring gear.

Thanks for all the support and assistance.
Merry Christmas to everyone and to all an "N" night

 

[wploetz]

Oh Oh, can't get spark out of Mallory 8555101C billet distributor and it did not come with a wiring diagram, it is meant for a car connector. Anyone got any knowledge of these?

 

[DaveOmak]

Does it have an internal coil... You may need an external coil.... and resistor... Now you know all I know..... almost nothing...

Dave

 

[wploetz]

It does have an internal coil. There are three wires coming out of the distributor, brown, black & red. These go to a connector block under the built in coil. There are 5 terminals under the connector block. We are trying to figure out what goes where? We think black out of distributor goes to ground, not sure about rest. Couldn't find any good diagrams at mallory or google.

Does it have an internal coil... You may need an external coil.... and resistor... Now you know all I know..... almost nothing...

Dave

 

[DaveOmak]

I couldn't find ANY diagrams or schematics... Are there any symbols where the wires enter the housing...

 

[DaveOmak]

Found one.... hope it helps...... Dave

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