Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms.

   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms.
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#21  
Was not even thinking that I could flip the tire and gain more distance . Was going to wait til spring but I think I have a job to do on the weekend.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #22  
I have outside swing chains on my Old B8200 and the chains were always hanging into them, on my box scrape I put the pins on the inside and gained the clearance i needed. My permanent solution was to mount my liftarms to the inside of my quickhitch, now the chains have clearance .

Longer pins from tsc and a pipe spacer between the sideplates.
 

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   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms.
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#23  
Are R4 tires directional? I can see an AG being directional.

R4 s are poor tires for traction in the mud and snow so I added chains.


bandaidMD. Some implements don't have pins to swap around to gain clearance.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms.
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#24  
Any idea what the tires will weigh if they happen to fall over ? 17.5L x 24 " add 50 lbs of chain too.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #25  
my filled ones weigh over 400 lbs. I use a atv jack when i take them off.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #26  
Are R4 tires directional? I can see an AG being directional.

R4 s are poor tires for traction in the mud and snow so I added chains.


bandaidMD. Some implements don't have pins to swap around to gain clearance.
Yes, they are directional, but if you swap the rim and tire side to side without the center, and without turning them around. the rotation is the same as it was on the other side. It changes the tread width because of the width of mounting point and it is off center on the rim. That is why there are 4 widths shown in the chart.

Back when I had a tractor, I used a shop crane to handle the tires.
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   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #27  
I had a Deere 4500 for several years. I didn't like the narrow setting the rears came in from the factory and wanted the front tires centered on the rears. So, me and my BIL swapped the rims on the center plate. Without fluid, one guy can pick the tire/rim combo up off the groun when it is laying flat and move it around pretty easily. Mine were 14.9X24 R1 tires.

Your center plate that bolts to the axle hub has loops of steel that the rim bolts go through to hold the rim to the center plate. You should have at least 8 different width setting adjustments with your rims. They look just about exactly like mine did. You can take the rim/tire combo off the center plate, move it to the opposite side of the tractor and then mount it on the opposite side of the loop from where they are now and gain 2.5" to 4.5" inches in width between the rear tires (your center plate should be about 1/4" thick and the loops are about 1.5-2" long themselves) just by that one change alone. This is without changing the way the center plate is facing now.
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #28  
leave the center disc mounted the way they are now. What you want to do is put the center disc to the inside of the rim loops. The loops are mounted off center on the rim. you want the loops to be closer to the tractor and the center disc either to the inside or out side of the loops then to give you the spacing you need. The picture posted of the Kubota rims will show the off center loops. The positions I am referring to are the 2 right hand positions shown,
Good luck
Tom
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #29  
leave the center disc mounted the way they are now. What you want to do is put the center disc to the inside of the rim loops. The loops are mounted off center on the rim. you want the loops to be closer to the tractor and the center disc either to the inside or out side of the loops then to give you the spacing you need. The picture posted of the Kubota rims will show the off center loops. The positions I am referring to are the 2 right hand positions shown,
Good luck
Tom
I think you're saying what I just did above you. However, he will have to place the rim on the opposite side of the loops from where they are now (he doesn't have a choice in whether they go inside or outside, only on the opposite side, if he wants to widen the spacing) when he moves the rims to the opposite side of the machine, or else the tread will be facing the wrong way. That is provided he leaves the center plate where it is now.:)
 
   / Wheel chains fit the 3 point arms. #30  
I think you're saying what I just did above you. However, he will have to place the rim on the opposite side of the loops from where they are now (he doesn't have a choice in whether they go inside or outside, only on the opposite side, if he wants to widen the spacing) when he moves the rims to the opposite side of the machine, or else the tread will be facing the wrong way. That is provided he leaves the center plate where it is now.:)
I don't agree that they will face the wrong way.

Here are some better diagrams that show the 8 possibilities for the old Row Crop tractors.
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His center plate is dished out and doesn't look like it would fit dished in, so that leaves 4 possibilities.
E, F, G and H, or the bottom row in the first diagram and 64 through 76 in the second diagram.

His is at position E, right now. He can jack up one side at a time, leave the center plate on the axle and move to F, or raise both sides, leave the centers on the axles and swap rims side to side, keeping the correct rotation and get G an H.

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