New 3050 CVT Update

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CVT. who makes this transmission for cnh? Two questions for CVT owners, will you buy another one? would you recommend one to a potential buyer? lt190b
We own a 2013 3050 CVT with 125 hours on it. Sorry I Don't know who makes the CVT on the Boomers for CNH maybe someone else can help you with that. As far as would I buy another tractor with a CVT in it That is a definite NO!!!! Would I recommend one to a potential buyer definitely NO!!!! If your in the market for a tractor I would advise you to find one without a computer assisted transmission and with no computer assisted engine. You won't need proprietary service hardware/software to work on it when it eventually needs some type of work and you won't have to rely on a computer to make your tractor move correctly!!!! There is a lot to be said for a standard transmission with a manual shuttle. When you put it in forward it goes forward. When you put it in reverse it goes in reverse. When you throw the lever the PTO turns on. If something breaks like it needs a clutch you can replace it. If you need something dependable stay away from the computer assisted don't let someone talk you into it.
 
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A quick update
I have now called the "800" number and sent an email to CNH. I've spoken to a NH Rep on the phone. He is hopefully getting a NH Field Rep to come and see our tractor and hopefully get it straightened out. I'm suppose to hear back on Friday now. Our two biggest problems are the transmission issues are all intermittent and we're approx. 4 hours away from our dealer. I'll Keep you posted. Our nightmare continues Owned it a little over 3 months and it's been at the dealer 1 month of those.

Utopia Don't trust the Forward/reverse lever especially if your in reverse backing away from a drop off because you might not be really in reverse!!!

Jinman Don't even think of trading yours for one of these!!

RickB I wish you could help me but with out that proprietary service hardware/software here....
 
   / New 3050 CVT Update #33  
JackFr, Yes....I have found that you have to take your foot completely off the pedal when shifting from forward to reverse or you end up in never never land. Any tiny foot pressure on the pedal while shifting confuses the computer and you end up not moving in the new direction until the engine rpm's drop to idle. I almost went off a 15 foot embankment into our creek and the pucker power was high! At least on my tiny Ford 1215 with HST changing from forward to reverse is instantaneous. I also am not fond of the newer computer stuff but as I have said before my Boomer has run flawlessly it's first 170 hours so far.
 
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Utopia
I was dumping snow over a 20' banking. I had put it in reverse when I got a phone call. I put one foot on the brake the other off the go pedal idled down the engine so I could hear the phone conversation. When I was done with the call 4 or 5 minutes later I assumed it was in reverse as that was where the lever was (Learned Never assume anything with this tractor) increased the rpm to 2000 removed my foot from the brake and stepped on the go pedal. It went forward!! Talk about pucker power! I thought I was to old to react that fast but surprised myself as I didn't go over the edge!:)
I was told when I bought it that you can leave your foot on the pedal or in cruise control and as long as you didn't pause in Neutral it would shift forward to reverse and reverse to forward with no problem. That is suppose to be one of the benefits of the CVT.
 
   / New 3050 CVT Update #35  
We own a 2013 3050 CVT with 125 hours on it. Sorry I Don't know who makes the CVT on the Boomers for CNH maybe someone else can help you with that. As far as would I buy another tractor with a CVT in it That is a definite NO!!!! Would I recommend one to a potential buyer definitely NO!!!! If your in the market for a tractor I would advise you to find one without a computer assisted transmission and with no computer assisted engine. You won't need proprietary service hardware/software to work on it when it eventually needs some type of work and you won't have to rely on a computer to make your tractor move correctly!!!! There is a lot to be said for a standard transmission with a manual shuttle. When you put it in forward it goes forward. When you put it in reverse it goes in reverse. When you throw the lever the PTO turns on. If something breaks like it needs a clutch you can replace it. If you need something dependable stay away from the computer assisted don't let someone talk you into it.

Jackfr. Thanks for your reply. Sorry to hear about all the problems with your tractor. lt190b
 
   / New 3050 CVT Update #36  
Guys,

I've been fortunate not to have the issues you have been seeing. Mine will change directions even still under power/moving. I have run bigger model NH's with power shuttle so I'm used to the motion. Due to that I tend to flip it fast and early. But of course mine may just be operating properly.

My complaints are 2 fold. Under load, like digging into a rock pile ... The tractor continues to dig forward for up to a second or two after lifting pedal pressure and flipping reverser. It's annoying and takes a lot to get used to. Probably has to do with the demand on hydraulics.

Other issue is speed of hi range. It needs backed off considerably. I don't run up and down roads. And it's worthless around property. Low is great 0-6 mph is perfect. Hi, seems like the 40hp motor strains to even move it. High revs required to move and you're immediately are at 3mph

Finally, my 3pt lever floats down by itself Annoying and I hope it can be adjusted

Thoughts and feedback welcome
 
   / New 3050 CVT Update #37  
I only use the high range (Number 3) on my Boomer when on the road driving to another pasture to mow or towing a trailer from one pasture to another.
I have the opposite problem with the lever for the rear three point hitch. Mine is so stiff it almost takes both hands to move it. We both need our levers adjusted, yours tighter and mine looser!
 
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I upgraded our transmission to the Deluxe version. It gives you 3 speed selections and an anti stall switch along with the ability to program in a set cruise control ground speed that it will remember when you want to use that speed. This works great when spreading as it will automatically give you the same ground speed each day no matter who is using tractor. This feature only works in High range though but it works fine each day locks right in at 3.0 mph. I use High for this and traveling between pastures low and the medium setting for loader work. I wish the rest of the tractor worked as well as this does.
 
   / New 3050 CVT Update #39  
I use the cruise control in tandem with range 3 to travel down the road at lower rpm's. Using range 3 with the foot pedal at a road speed of say 15 mph may result in engine rpm's of 2200. Using the cruise control in range 3 you can get up to the road speed of 15 mph then toggle down the cruise control to say 1500 rpm while still maintaining the 15 mph road speed. This may not make sense in writing but once you try it on the tractor it works well.
 
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A Quick Update
It looks like New Holland is going to take care of shipping and a loaner when ours goes back to the dealer this time to hopefully to be fixed. At least that is what I've been told by the rep I talked to.
But the problems continue. Yesterday the PTO turned on once with a delay I used it for approx. 10 minutes and then about 5 minutes later when I tried to restart it wouldn't come back on. There were no 5080 codes no cpu lockup it just wouldn't come back on. I tried restarting the tractor still nothing. I had some loader work to do so got that done all the time trying to get pto to restart no luck but had long delays shifting into forward. I parked in shop and got manual out to check fuses with it off for about 15 minutes. Pulled the pto/seat fuse it was ok put it back in started the tractor the pto worked??? So I don't know what I did to make it work again. Was it the cpu overheated not working properly and it cooled enough to work? Was it a bad switch that I moved the right way to make it work or is something loose in wiring to fuse panel and pulling the fuse in and out made it work or is it a combination of some or all??
The whistles and bells as Jim called them are great like the Deluxe transmission upgrade options but.... When they don't work.
 

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