Mahindra: Nothing but problems

[farmgirl19]

I would maybe say calloused rather than mean, but I know what you are referring to. Dmize sounds like a talent that TBN needs. I was very impressed with his race car ability. We can always use even more talent than we already have. I hope he hangs around with us.

TomSeller; Thank you for being a "level headed, voice of reason". Kind of confirms my thoughts that you are always a gentleman! :thumbsup:

 

[bindian]

He came for help and he did not get much of it. As far as a great product, the brand may be great but his fit and finish was not. He sees it through his eyes, not someone's who had a better experience. I think the group was too hard on him.

His recent post shows he knows what he was talking about all along. Great ending.

Tom,
Yes, he knew what he was talking about, but didn't commuicate it very well in his first posts. If he would have mentioned he was in discussions with the dealer and Mahindra, I wouldn't have dropped it there.
hugs, Brandi

 

[dmize]

I wish him good luck, but hugs???? No hugs here....

Awww, couldn't win you over huh. that's ok, can't win 'em all.

For the record, my first post statement was "I'm an engineer, and I have never seen such a poorly constructed piece of equipment." I should have pointed that out earlier, rather than get into a discussion on the tractor's engineering vs build quality. As Brandi pointed out, fit and finish issues, I called them QC issues.

Something is only as good as the sum of it's parts, weak links should be eliminated or recalled and replaced for a better design. GM does this all the time, if I go in for a replacement oil pump for a 97 ls1, they give me the updated ls6, ls2, or ls3 version that has cleaner castings, tighter seal tolerences, and better impeller design to deliver greater volume. Oil pressure went from the low 30 psi to low 40's. That makes me happy considering it was ~$50 stock part that saw the evolution of improvements through the generations of LS engines over the last 17 years, yet was still able to bolt up just like the original.

If there is a shortcoming in a parts design, issue a recall and send out a notice. At the very least, send a notice so there's awareness. I didn't get all bent out of shape when Ram issued a recall on the tie rod end, I just took in the little post card to the dealer that described the parts affected, the risk, and outlined the repair.

Cheers

 

[dmize]

You guys are great thank you!

No CI on the gas engine, but I had to pull out some top end timing in the tune. The old 97 gm PCM's were pretty limited in their adjustment capabailities compare to the new ones. Engine is healthy NA 346ci stock bottem end pushing out 468 hp 443 ftlbs to the rear wheels on the dyno. I could get a little more out of her, but this was one of the first ls blocks produced, I let the 80mm tb act as my restrictor plate because I know that if I want to go faster, the adjustments are in me as the driver not the car.

 

[cartod]

You guys are great thank you!

No CI on the gas engine, but I had to pull out some top end timing in the tune. The old 97 gm PCM's were pretty limited in their adjustment capabailities compare to the new ones. Engine is healthy NA 346ci stock bottem end pushing out 468 hp 443 ftlbs to the rear wheels on the dyno. I could get a little more out of her, but this was one of the first ls blocks produced, I let the 80mm tb act as my restrictor plate because I know that if I want to go faster, the adjustments are in me as the driver not the car.

You guys might as well be speaking latin now. All I can ad is that I really like buttered toast, and welcome to TBN!

 

[arrow]

You guys are great thank you!

No CI on the gas engine, but I had to pull out some top end timing in the tune. The old 97 gm PCM's were pretty limited in their adjustment capabailities compare to the new ones. Engine is healthy NA 346ci stock bottem end pushing out 468 hp 443 ftlbs to the rear wheels on the dyno. I could get a little more out of her, but this was one of the first ls blocks produced, I let the 80mm tb act as my restrictor plate because I know that if I want to go faster, the adjustments are in me as the driver not the car.

I think there is a misconstrue here. I should have said "cu. ins" meaning you are making up what another car with forced induction with (say 3.8 L and twin turbos) with an increase in block size which in your case is closing in on 5.7L. I knew that by the degree of overlap you were running. What we still do not know is the car. Camarro,Corvette?. I have a friend who has an LS 1 in his 64 Corvette. He stroked it to 383, twin turbos and goes 9.9 -10.1 in the quarter. What terrific motors the LS series are. .

 

[murphy1244]

I think there is a misconstrue here. I should have said "cu. ins" meaning you are making up what another car with forced induction with (say 3.8 L and twin turbos) with an increase in block size which in your case is closing in on 5.7L. I knew that by the degree of overlap you were running. What we still do not know is the car. Camarro,Corvette?. I have a friend who has an LS 1 in his 64 Corvette. He stroked it to 383, twin turbos and goes 9.9 -10.1 in the quarter. What terrific motors the LS series are. .

love the Torque.

 

[ODT]

Hi dmize,

I understand that we are too far away, and hopeful that the arrangement between you, the local dealer, and Mahindra works out to everyone's benefit. We think a lot of the Mahindra service rep that handles Virginia so I'm sure it will.

 

[bindian]

Something is only as good as the sum of it's parts, weak links should be eliminated or recalled and replaced for a better design.

Back in the early 80s I worked for Heliflight/Air Logistics. Numerous Sikorsky S-76 helicopters were exploding and dropping into the water with all SOBs (souls on board) lost. It was a puzzle until it happened somewhere in the Far East over land.

An engine exploded, taking out the other engine and the tail rotor drive shaft, the AC and DC Junction boxes mounted below the engine deck, and the battery. Complete power failure as the S-76 spun to it's death. Parts also came out of the engine cowling and took out all four main rotors.

The land crash revealed the engine's "pea shooter" shaft's new design without the old style oil passage in it was the cause. PHI had scrapped all the old style shafts and all their S-76s were down until new, old style parts were made. Air Logistics saved their old shafts, and were able to reinstall them and fly.

About 2 dozen deaths and the lost of a handful of fine helicopters were contributed to "better design"
Just because it is new does not make it better, just newer. So QC and FAA testing did not find the defect leading up to the loss of the helicopters. Actual use did.

Before the land crash, my coworkers and I were putting beryllium "scatter" shields around both engine's turbines and a shield over the tail rotor driveshaft. Also shields in the engine cowlings. I installed 3 Sikorskys with scatter shields before the cause was found. It really was a sad affair installing those shields and thinking about what a new and "improve" design caused. Just think how that engineer that changed the design felt.
hugs, Brandi

 

[BC4]

I have a Mahindra 2816. It has been more than I expected. Have apx 100 hours and could not ask for more from it. Can not imagine a better machine at any price. I do hope you get yours like you need it or find the tractor that is right for you. My nephew repairs lots of tractors and says Mahindra is a good one. Mahindra claims to be the number one selling tractor on the market. If I were to get another one I would look to Mahindra again. This list is just assume and this list can help you fix the one you have or find what is right for you. Hope you will stay involved with it. TBN is the best. Hope it all works out.

Bob

 

[dmize]

love the Torque.

1. Hey it's a 97 corvette, sorry about that. I do road racing, like the SCCA or lemans style, turning both left and right on a closed circuit (not street racing). I just milled the heads to for the free compression energy, but am still able to run the 93 octane to make it easier on the budget. The 101 octane at Road Atlanta was over $10 /gallon. That just wasn't necessary; I wanted more time behind the wheel being a better driver which will almost always figure a way to beat a better car.

All the diesel guys on the forum should appreciate running high compression between 18-22 to 1 for CI as compression ignition where FI for forced induction to give more Cu In. That was the beauty of running leaded gas in the old muscle cars that could do ~14:1 compression on pump gas to take advantage of maximizing the compression and therefore energy return. :thumbsup:

 

[Johnny g]

It must be frustrating to go through life with such a negative attitude.

 

[farmgirl19]

1. Hey it's a 97 corvette, sorry about that. I do road racing, like the SCCA or lemans style, turning both left and right on a closed circuit (not street racing). I just milled the heads to for the free compression energy, but am still able to run the 93 octane to make it easier on the budget. The 101 octane at Road Atlanta was over $10 /gallon. That just wasn't necessary; I wanted more time behind the wheel being a better driver which will almost always figure a way to beat a better car.

All the diesel guys on the forum should appreciate running high compression between 18-22 to 1 for CI as compression ignition where FI for forced induction to give more Cu In. That was the beauty of running leaded gas in the old muscle cars that could do ~14:1 compression on pump gas to take advantage of maximizing the compression and therefore energy return. :thumbsup:

I had a gas engine once, with 17.5:1 CR. It not only took leaded, it took 100 octane leaded!

 

[murphy1244]

I had a gas engine once, with 17.5:1 CR. It not only took leaded, it took 100 octane leaded!

Tell us about it FG. I think this is gonna be about Planes?

 

[dmize]

So I think I got off topic: the dealer has found some leaks on the fuel and hydraulics. They are still tracing the electrical short and appreciated a description of my trouble shooting results. Right now they estimate it will be ready next week, but I'll feel better when they figure out the exact cause of the short.

I appreciate all the in depth discussions and all the replies found on the forum here. Good information to help make decisions moving forward.

 

[TomSeller]

So I think I got off topic: the dealer has found some leaks on the fuel and hydraulics. They are still tracing the electrical though they appreciated my description of the issues again, and say it should be ready sometime next week.

I appreciate all the in depth discussions and all the replies found on the forum here.

They must have got the shop Manual in. Good deal.

 

[bindian]

I had a gas engine once, with 17.5:1 CR. It not only took leaded, it took 100 octane leaded!

I mixed 100 octane low lead half and half with gas in my '77 F100.
We had tons of it from tank repairs on Mooneys.
hugs, Brandi

 

[farmgirl19]

I wasn't referring to 100 octane LL, but the 100 octane that used to be available at the gas pumps. I *hear* that was before the days of any unleaded gasoline.

 

[sixdogs]

I wasn't referring to 100 octane LL, but the 100 octane that used to be available at the gas pumps. I *hear* that was before the days of any unleaded gasoline.

What were you driving that took 100 octane pump gas? There has to be a story worth telling in that.

 

[arrow]

What were you driving that took 100 octane pump gas? There has to be a story worth telling in that.

Six, you could get 104 octane right from the pump in the 60's (Sunoco 104). There were cars that had 11 to 1 compression from the factory but very few as the muscle car wars started to heat up. Anything over 12.5 was hardly streetable. Chrysler back in 63 offered a "race" version Plymouth Satellite that had 14 to 1 cr. You really couldn't run this thing on the street as it was strictly a drag car but it would use all of the octane one could muster.