DK50SE vs NX5510 vs NX6010 All are HST with Cab, Thoughts?

   / DK50SE vs NX5510 vs NX6010 All are HST with Cab, Thoughts? #51  
rmorey, Coyote Machine, thanks for there info. It sounds as though the Kiote dealer is willing to offer a good value on trade.
 
   / DK50SE vs NX5510 vs NX6010 All are HST with Cab, Thoughts?
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What brand and model of blower do you have? I've yet to research blowers and would enjoy listening to other's 3PT blower experiences!

Thanks. :)

Hey Eric,

I bought my DK50HST with cab from where your shopping (Jim). I took last years model but looked at the NX6010. I traveled about 650 miles round trip to buy it. I had a New Holland TC40D HST without a cab. With the harsh winter I decided it was time. I have a 7' single auger 2 stage Red Devil Snow Blower and my Kioti has no problem clearing snow. I did the same thing as you. I had a lot of questions and talked with Jim's shop guys. You can't beat the quality or the price. The heat does not really get warm until you start working the tractor, my thermostat is fine. I did buy a block heater which I plan to install. Jim was pleasant to deal with and there was no pressure to buy. The tractor sold itself. HST is the way to go. I didn't realize how quiet the newer ones are, otherwise I would have considered it. My final choice on last years model was only due to economics, it was too good of a deal to pass up. If I had to do it again, I would buy a Kioti, but I don't have that many hours on mine. When it's snowing out, I can now take my time and clear all the snow without getting cold, while drinking coffee and listening to tunes. I did notice the newer ones did not come with a stereo, but that is an easy instal. My only regret is not buying it sooner. Happy Shopping!

Kelly
 
   / DK50SE vs NX5510 vs NX6010 All are HST with Cab, Thoughts? #53  
Hey Eric,

I bought my DK50HST with cab from where your shopping (Jim). I took last years model but looked at the NX6010. I traveled about 650 miles round trip to buy it. I had a New Holland TC40D HST without a cab. With the harsh winter I decided it was time. I have a 7' single auger 2 stage Red Devil Snow Blower and my Kioti has no problem clearing snow. I did the same thing as you. I had a lot of questions and talked with Jim's shop guys. You can't beat the quality or the price. The heat does not really get warm until you start working the tractor, my thermostat is fine. I did buy a block heater which I plan to install. Jim was pleasant to deal with and there was no pressure to buy. The tractor sold itself. HST is the way to go. I didn't realize how quiet the newer ones are, otherwise I would have considered it. My final choice on last years model was only due to economics, it was too good of a deal to pass up. If I had to do it again, I would buy a Kioti, but I don't have that many hours on mine. When it's snowing out, I can now take my time and clear all the snow without getting cold, while drinking coffee and listening to tunes. I did notice the newer ones did not come with a stereo, but that is an easy instal. My only regret is not buying it sooner. Happy Shopping!

Kelly

Kelly,

That is good to know. This would be my first tractor and so I have no experiential basis to judge how much a machine this size can handle. I know I want to run at least a 7' blower so as to be as wide as the tractor itself but really no wider than 7.5' because I hope to be able to pickup side business clearing lake home driveways for our seasonal folks.
 
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Eric,

I also did not get the liquid put in the tires for weight. With the snowblower attached, that's all the weight I need. I lift round bales with mine without a problem, as long as I have the weight on the rear end. I will be buying the hydraulic setup for a grapple. Most tractors in this size range have great resale especially the HST. I sold my New Holland after 10 years and sold it for $2,000 less than what I bought it used. It sold in 1 day after posting it on Craig's List. That's a pretty good deal for 10 years of use, of course I only had 580 hours on it.

Kelly
 
   / DK50SE vs NX5510 vs NX6010 All are HST with Cab, Thoughts? #55  
Thanks, you just informed me that Kioti's need higher temperature thermostats as I noticed the NX6010 i tried out to day never really showed that it was warmed up.

Pretty common to need to move to warmer T-stat up here in the north in order to warm up properly.

No, T Stat is fine.
If you let it run with the heater off, it will warm up to normal operrating temp in about 10 to 15 min at 1300 or so rpm, when cold out, 0 to 30 degrees.
After you get heat in the motor and crank the heat, it will maintain engine temp.

If you .fire it up in the cold, and turn the heater valve, (water valve) on, and crank the fan it will barely come off cold in that 10 ti 15 minute time period, water is circulating through the heater core as soon as you turn the water valve to hot. Themostat closed or not..Think small radiator with electric fan on it, not reliant on thermostat to regulate when water goes through it.

So get some heat in the motor first, then no problem:thumbsup:
 
   / DK50SE vs NX5510 vs NX6010 All are HST with Cab, Thoughts? #56  
No, T Stat is fine.
If you let it run with the heater off, it will warm up to normal operrating temp in about 10 to 15 min at 1300 or so rpm, when cold out, 0 to 30 degrees.
After you get heat in the motor and crank the heat, it will maintain engine temp.

If you .fire it up in the cold, and turn the heater valve, (water valve) on, and crank the fan it will barely come off cold in that 10 ti 15 minute time period, water is circulating through the heater core as soon as you turn the water valve to hot. Themostat closed or not..Think small radiator with electric fan on it, not reliant on thermostat to regulate when water goes through it.

So get some heat in the motor first, then no problem:thumbsup:

In my experience, a small engine should not take that long to warm up. I'll inquire about the availability of different T-stats if the engine warms up faster with a radiator hose pinched off as a test. If the engine warms up faster, then the stock T-stat is opening too soon in cold weather. Once warmed up there is no flow difference, so there is nothing to lose trying an experiment.
 
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Kelly,

I thought I'd go with ballast since I'm planning on running a 1400 pound rotary cutter and a root grapple for clearing land. More weight should make the root grapple more effective.
 
   / DK50SE vs NX5510 vs NX6010 All are HST with Cab, Thoughts? #58  
In my experience, a small engine should not take that long to warm up. I'll inquire about the availability of different T-stats if the engine warms up faster with a radiator hose pinched off as a test. If the engine warms up faster, then the stock T-stat is opening too soon in cold weather. Once warmed up there is no flow difference, so there is nothing to lose trying an experiment.

Any experience with diesels? They run cold by their nature. The factory t-stat is what should be used- the tractors run where they should in the summer on the gauge. Block heaters can be useful in winter if the machine is stored in unheated or outside location, BUT they are combustion ignition so they need proper delivery of ungelled fuel and a preheated combustion chamber via glow plug circuit. Once running with treated 'cut' winter fuel they should keep running without incident.
 
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Just bought my DK45 HST with cab from Jim. Was great to work with and cut me a fair deal. Took delivery on it yesterday, so got to play in the snow today!
 
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Any experience with diesels? They run cold by their nature. The factory t-stat is what should be used- the tractors run where they should in the summer on the gauge. Block heaters can be useful in winter if the machine is stored in unheated or outside location, BUT they are combustion ignition so they need proper delivery of ungelled fuel and a preheated combustion chamber via glow plug circuit. Once running with treated 'cut' winter fuel they should keep running without incident.

Not a whole lot of experience on diesels. As a former auto-mechanic I've worked on diesels insofar as they needed to be worked on (mostly K-Jetronic systems) but I worked on many more gasser vehicles. Anyway, no matter the type of small engine, it should not take twenty minutes to warm-up. The service manager and I discussed the direct injectors need to have clear fuel running through them and so I'll get a fuel-line heater as well.
 

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