trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward?

   / trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward? #21  
Could the turbo turn? with no flo thru the exhaust?

That's what I was thinking too. For the turbo to spin the air has to go somewhere. Upside of the turbo is the exhaust ports and even if one exhaust valve was open the inlet would be closed so no flow, no spinning????
 
   / trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward? #22  
A diesel expert can correct me if wrong, but I believe you guys are right.


For the turbo to turn the wastegate would have to be open, which it wouldn't be.


Or an exhaust valve and intake valve in the same cylinder would have to be open. Then air would go thru the turbo, spinning it, thru the open exhaust valve into the cylinder, thru the open intake valve into the intake manifold, thru the manifold into the air filter, thru the air filter and out to atmosphere.

Then, if all that happened, it would have to be at such a rate and volume to cause bearing failure. I'm not sure a vehicle pulling the unit down the road could go fast enough to cause such a rate or volume.
 
   / trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward? #23  
I tow facing forward when I can. I have an underslung exhaust that exists out the back of the tractor and I like to limit the wind that blows through that could possibly wreck the turbo. I could probably just tape it or stick a sock in there.....but I KNOW I would eventually forget to cover it once....OR remove it!

Just put a beer can over the exhaust with a bungie cord attached to it. Anchor the bungie cord to something on the tractor.
 
   / trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward? #24  
What kind of top do you have. I have a tuff top and it says not to trailer over 35mph facing foreword. Remove or tow backwards.

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   / trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward? #26  
Hmmmmmm,,, I read all the way thru that thread and never saw anything that would indicate the ball came unhooked because of which way the tractor was driven onto the trailer. A lot of discussion about proper binding, which again, had nothing to do with the trailer coming unhooked. Seems everyone missed the biggest safety issue of all. Properly securing the ball hitch. My question would be, what size ball was on the vehicle and what size hitch was on the trailer.. Maybe,,,,, 2" ball in a 2 5/16" hitch?? Lastly OP was fortunate the rental company hitched him up.

I was also thinking he may have had 2" ball and a 2 5/16" coupler. He may have also not had a safety pin in coupler latch.
 
   / trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward? #27  
I know there was a thread on this last year but I CAN'T find it.

Tractor/trailer:
View attachment 372089

Tractor (4K lbs) w/ FEL (1.6K lbs) and loaded rears (1.3L lbs) I'm guessing at about 7.5K to 8K lbs, with a little fuel, chains etc.
Trailer 12K Hudson, w/ wd hitch
Tow vehicle 2002 F350 7.3 dually, w/ only about a 2K lb payload.
I've taken the canopy off for travel.

It fits either way.

The butt of my dually sinks 2.25" with the tractor backed on all the way
View attachment 372092
This is the "heaviest tongue weight" and I suspect about 15% based on my other playing around w/ tongue weights.

It sinks 1.25" with it backed on
View attachment 372091

And with it pulled all the way forward, as in the first pic, w/ bucket over the frame it sinks about 1.75".

So I can put it on either way. What does the collective TBN mind think is better? Forward or backward?

Your receiver hitch on your pickup has a tongue rating. Don't exceed that. The pic with the tractor backed all the way up on the trailer looks front heavy.
 
   / trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward?
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Your receiver hitch on your pickup has a tongue rating. Don't exceed that. The pic with the tractor backed all the way up on the trailer looks front heavy.
Also your ball has a rating, often people will buy a draw bar for 10K lbs and have a ball for only 6K.
Based on this thread I'm planning on taking the tractor down facing forward and I'll throw a strap over the hood.

20140427_103025.jpg

This way gives me approx 1,000 lbs tongue weight (measured w/ scale), w/ chains still in tongue box.
So I figure
trailer - 2000 lb
tractor - 4000 lb
FEL - 1600 lb
Extra weight of loaded rears - 1100 lbs
Total weight - 8,700 lbs
10% to 15% is about 870 lbs to 1300 lbs so I'll make sure I have a little more weight in front.

Darn glad I DON'T have a 10K rated trailer :)
 
   / trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward? #29  
That's how I'd haul it.
 
   / trailering with the Tractor facing forward or backward? #30  
I was also thinking he may have had 2" ball and a 2 5/16" coupler. He may have also not had a safety pin in coupler latch.
Roger, I'm OCD about that safety pin. My log splitter is trailer mounted and has one of those stupid spring loaded levers to latch the ball. I don't trust it at all and always add a safety pin.
 

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