I have a favor to ask you about your posts

[J_J]

Everyone should understand that we are not equal and never will be.

It is easy for one that knows, to chastise or condemn someone about small stuff.

Some of you think that grammar is higher education, but really, if you can understand what someone is trying to say, then let it be. That person may be set in his or her ways, and nothing you say is going to change that.

I am not proud when I make a mistake, and someone points it out, and I might not even know it until some one with higher learning says different.

I have to use spell checker all the time, and if I didn't, you would think poorly of me, thinking I am ignorant.

I don't even mind caps, is that really yelling, really now. The grammar police are watching.

Whenever I recall one of my post and see the red underline, I think how in the he** did I miss that.

Sometimes, I really don't know how to spell a word or spell check does not catch it.

I have tried to correct the mindset of some people about some things, but some did not appreciate it, and some did.

I really don't think it is appropriate to ask a bad speller to correct his mistakes. They probably don't know how, or don't want to.

Those that can write and speak well, I applaud you and hope you are happy with your learning.

Just don't condemn those that are less fortunate.

I did spend some time spell checking this post and hope it is correct, so I hope someone doesn't chastise me or forbid me my supper if they find mistakes. .

Has anyone ever asked someone to correct their grammar or they will not read their material?

This post should end as you are probably not going to make a good speller out of even a few people.

I could probably do a little better, but I don't think I want to, just to please someone.

 

[brin]

Everyone should understand that we are not equal and never will be.

It is easy for one that knows, to chastise or condemn someone about small stuff.

Some of you think that grammar is higher education, but really, if you can understand what someone is trying to say, then let it be. That person may be set in his or her ways, and nothing you say is going to change that.

I am not proud when I make a mistake, and someone points it out, and I might not even know it until some one with higher learning says different.

I have to use spell checker all the time, and if I didn't, you would think poorly of me, thinking I am ignorant.

I don't even mind caps, is that really yelling, really now. The grammar police are watching.

Whenever I recall one of my post and see the red underline, I think how in the he** did I miss that.

Sometimes, I really don't now how to spell a word or spell check does not catch it.

I have tried to correct the mindset of some people about some things, but some did not appreciate it, and some did.

I really don't think it is appropriate to ask a bad speller to correct his mistakes. They probably don't know how, or don't want to.

Those that can write and speak well, I applaud you and hope you are happy with your learning.

Just don't condemn those that are less fortunate.

I did spend some time spell checking this post and hope it is correct, so I hope someone doesn't chastise me or forbid me my supper if they find mistakes. .

Has anyone ever asked someone to correct their grammar or they will not read their material?

This post should end as you are probably not going to make a good speller out of even a few people.

I could probably do a little better, but I don't think I want to, just to please someone.

JJ....I ditto everything you wrote....You are exactly right....I too depend of spell check...I don't know how to spell every word....who does ? I do enjoy reading your posts helping folks with all kinds of hydraulic problems and giving a lot of other information on equipment etc.

That's all JJ....I agree and thanks.

 

[vtsnowedin]

Plus one.:thumbsup:

 

[scaredychicken]

JJ :thumbsup:

 

[downsizingnow48]

Yep. Me too.

Sometimes when I think somebody wrote something a bit confused, when I think about it more and come back, I find I understand it better.

 

[/pine]

Some of you think that grammar is higher education...

Not trying to get chased down a rabbit hole on this...but almost all of the poor English, lack of grammar etc. etc...that is common here are things that should have been learned in elementary and middle schools...

IMO if someone claims to actually have some "higher education" (post k-12) and they still make word form etc. errors...it is a fairly good assumption they are fibbing about said "higher education"

Nobody ever made it through English 101 by not knowing the difference between your, you're or there, their and they're etc...etc...personally I find it very hard to take someone that does not know the difference seriously...maybe it's just a peeve of mine but when reading a post with improper word forms it is like bells and whistles going off...

Poor spelling is another issue entirely and is insignificant IMO...

 

[J_J]

I guess I have to apologize for not getting a good education, as I know they tried.

I just was not into learning much of anything, and my grades reflected that.

You know the little boy Johnny that was always pissing people off, that was me. I had my butt whipped many many times for not listening and playing around. I even put magazines in my pants, because I just knew they were going to beat my a**.

Do you really think it done me any good. I wasn't very interested in anything way back then.

Now, just the opposite I am on the computer about 8 to 10 hrs a day doing research, looking at things I have never seen or just want to know about. I wished I had paid attention, as my world might be different now.

If it pisses anybody off when reading my post about grammar or punctuation, then so be it.

I just can't help how anyone feels about my language skills. If you are talking about punctuation, I may not ever be able to fix that. Me and spell checker, I need it.

I feel that I put out data in everyday language that anyone can read. I put this data out as best as I can interpret it. Notice, I did not say that people would understand everything I say.

I wish i could please you all, but alas, it is what it is. You either have to accept it or there is a way to not see my post. I am sure I am on some ones ignore list, but ask me if I care.

Will you all go back to school and learn the stuff you missed out on so we can all get along.

 

[NS Gearhead]

I wished I had paid attention, as my world might be different now.

Don't regret your mistakes... they made you who you are today.

As for my posts; english is my 2nd language, so I'm sorry if I get some of it wrong.

 

[downsizingnow48]

I don't think JJ, NS, or others have anything to apologize for. The forum is a tremendous source of down to earth technical knowledge and hard won experience, on many topics. That is what is important.

 

[Jesse masterson]

Pine! Your right it is your peeve! As you put it, we all have or failures, some eve indent for the world to see, some not! Obviously your failures are more hidden but still there. I bet if I knew you better I could point , as I'm sure others have to you in your past were you have failed to quote, make the grade!!!!

 

[vtsnowedin]

Not trying to get chased down a rabbit hole on this...but almost all of the poor English, lack of grammar etc. etc...that is common here are things that should have been learned in elementary and middle schools...

IMO if someone claims to actually have some "higher education" (post k-12) and they still make word form etc. errors...it is a fairly good assumption they are fibbing about said "higher education"

Nobody ever made it through English 101 by not knowing the difference between your, you're or there, their and they're etc...etc...personally I find it very hard to take someone that does not know the difference seriously...maybe it's just a peeve of mine but when reading a post with improper word forms it is like bells and whistles going off...

Poor spelling is another issue entirely and is insignificant IMO...

\Yes you need to get yourself down that hole pretty quick. Your being a complete @@s and we don't care that you know the difference between to, too and two.

 

[deerseeker001]

I have agree

\Yes you need to get yourself down that hole pretty quick. Your being a complete @@s and we don't care that you know the difference between to, too and two.

 

[vtsnowedin]

Thank you.

 

[cqaigy2]

\Yes you need to get yourself down that hole pretty quick. Your being a complete @@s and we don't care that you know the difference between to, too and two.

Don't include me in this rant. I can appreciate peoples skills including those i lack. I see no problem in trying to add to my skills. I had a horrible time learning to read and write, i can thank my Mother for the attention she gave me in helping me over come these deficits. I don't begrudge people's ability to express their thoughts in a concise and succinct manner. I still have problems reading and writing and my spelling skills are masked by a spell checker. I applaud those with the gift for language as I applaud those with technical skills. I don't condone /pines ability to be, in what my opinion, tactless and i may feel he does himself a disservice in getting his idea across, but he does express the reality that many people with not look beyond your use of language and that it does help people to understand you, nothing wrong with that.

 

[Baby Grand]

When I was 18, I worked for a lumber company in my home town, which was a white-collar suburb of New York City.
Pay was not very good at the "yard", but there was a way to supplement our meager paychecks.
About once a month the railroad would leave a boxcar full of random length 2-by lumber on the spur and the lumber company paid JR to unload it.

Now, JR couldn't read or write. He was big, spoke very slowly, and I used to think he was kinda dumb.
JR would hire some of the yard workers to help him unload the boxcars and I got my chance to make some extra cash on hot summer's day.
By the time that box car was empty, I had a whole different opinion of JR.

Unloading random length lumber from a boxcar is awkward and getting it all stacked into "units" of the same length boards without handling everything 5 times requires some very good planning and on-the-fly thinking. JR never hesitated during the off-load and handled problems that came up with a calm, level headed logic that made me kind of jealous.

So, after that, I never really put too much stock in someone's reading or writing skills because I saw that thinking that way might get in the way of me learning something from someone who knew something that I didn't.

 

[/pine]

Gee...seems like I struck a nerve or too...er I mean two...:ashamed:

perhaps I should put links to the definitions of "blunt" and "succinct" in my sig...

illiteracy can be overcome...

 

[brin]

Gee...seems like I struck a nerve or too...er I mean two...:ashamed:

perhaps I should put links to the definitions of "blunt" and "succinct" in my sig...

illiteracy can be overcome...

pine...You just won't stop. Are you telling us you have never hurriedly typed a post and misused a word or skipped some punctuation....Seriously ? You are not being very gracious or fair with your judgement of others here.

 

[ace10]

i'm drawn back to this thread like a moth to the flame. i cannot believe the arrogance and general douchiness by some folks who frequent a forum dedicated to tractors, home/farm projects and general hands-on kinda stuff.

good grief. mods, locks this asinine thread already.

 

[breadtrk]

The Grammar police need to abandon this ship and go to a NASA forum to find out that they are ignorant too. It is really an insult to those who come here to share knowledge and experience for some book smart know it all to discount said knowledge and experience because someone doesn't know a preposition from a noun.

 

[mikehaugen]

This thread has really taken a turn...

I think the op came here with a reasonable gripe about posts that are hard to understand because of no paragraph breaks, no punctuation, and just generally unclear thoughts. Some here have taken that as asking for perfect grammar and spelling. I don't think that was his intent. I agree, with a lot of the comments on here, no need to be perfect but at least be clear and understandable.