Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage

   / Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage #61  
OK got it. If you hooked up a generator out at the subpanel, your "connection" out there cannot employ or work exclusively with the mechanical interlock which is a device that physically ensures the main breaker has been disconnected from the utility.
Correct.

Aaron Z
 
   / Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage #62  
I didn't read all the posts as I didn't need to. I understand trying to save a buck or being a handyman, or whatever, BUT when it comes to safety issues why would anyone tray and save a buck.

Seriously, how much can a real electrician cost? Furthermore if you do a Mickey Mouse electrical job, you will never ever be able to sleep at night or go away on vacation for wondering if and when you're handy work goes up in flames.

Trust me I'm NOT directing this to you as to everyone who attempts unsafe, knowledgeable projects.

People spend years in order to become engineers, electricians, USE THEM PAY THE MONEY, So for anyone to wake up one day and decide " I think I'll build a bridge today" of I think I'll work on electricity" ....what next "I think I'll be a brain surgeon today"
 
   / Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage
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#63  
Seriously, how much can a real electrician cost?

Well good question, and pertinent too.

My guess is $1000 for the electrician, and $200 for materials (at their markup), $100 for permit, days or weeks for permit, several meetings for bids, inspections. Also risk of other problems getting into the fray, requiring updates, and the ever-present risk of scope-creep. So minimum $1300 and much time invested to add a 230v outlet.

And a lot more lost sleep than researching a simple problem and solving it in one day. Understood there are many people who cannot do this work. Hard for an electrician to assess I bet, not seeing the job with his own 2 eyes.

For all that most people should just use a 115v outlet and have a grinder handy to bevel a joint or two.
 
   / Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage #64  
Any decent IPA. In 100 degrees in eastern WA right now.
 
   / Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage #65  
One way to balance load on each leg from Generator. Also includes hour meter for Generator.

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   / Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage #66  
Well good question, and pertinent too.

My guess is $1000 for the electrician, and $200 for materials (at their markup), $100 for permit, days or weeks for permit, several meetings for bids, inspections. Also risk of other problems getting into the fray, requiring updates, and the ever-present risk of scope-creep. So minimum $1300 and much time invested to add a 230v outlet.

Every electrician I know would have done that job without a permit. And in Seattle and environs, a permit for the job under discussion would have been OTC.
 
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#67  
Ok no permit but is $ est good? IPA would be gret too but cant count on that.
 
   / Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage #68  
Probably half of that.

Whats IPA? OTC is Over The Counter, what they call permits with no plan review
 
   / Help adding 230v outlet at subpanel in the garage
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#69  
Probably half of that.

Whats IPA? OTC is Over The Counter, what they call permits with no plan review

OK thanks RK you've been great help. I took it as the guy'd do it for a beer cuz it's 100 deg
 

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