Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service

   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #21  
What size strap wrench are you guys using? I have a 50 hour service coming up soon. I have a very large wrench and wonder if it will be enough to defeat the 800 lb gorilla that puts the filters on.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #22  
Smooth strap? Good luck :)
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #23  
What size strap wrench are you guys using? I have a 50 hour service coming up soon. I have a very large wrench and wonder if it will be enough to defeat the 800 lb gorilla that puts the filters on.

I believe the collective consensus is to use either a chain wrench (15" in my case) or to drive a long bar through the filter and use it as a lever. There are quite a few separate threads on TBN about the Kioti filters and a few people were able to use a strap wrench, but most not- me included, and I purchased two or three high quality strap wrenches for my filter project.

I would try the least destructive first- a chain wrench wrapped around the very bottom of the filter and then drive a bar through the filter later if the chain does not work. Most likely the chain wrench will work. In my TSC store's discount bins by the checkout registers, sits a two pack of large, long, stout screwdrivers on sale for ~ $8 I have been mulling over and just could not find a need for. But I will stop buy today and get a pair to keep around for use on removing filters- just one more thing in the arsenal.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #24  
I don't believe any strap wrench will work. I had no luck with them. Get a good chain wrench to start with and have the backup plan with something to drive thru the filter.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #25  
What's odd is - the problem is only with one filter. The rest were tolerable.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #26  
What's odd is - the problem is only with one filter. The rest were tolerable.

The 800 lb Gorilla only works on the right side hydraulic filter. He has nothing to do with the engine filter line or the hydrostatic filter on the other side. He has his job, and he does it well.:D
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #27  
This is my strap wrench. 18" Rigid with a 2" web strap. Only time will tell. If it doesn't work I have a big set of Chanel Locks.
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   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #28  
This is my strap wrench. 18" Rigid with a 2" web strap. Only time will tell. If it doesn't work I have a big set of Chanel Locks.
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No way. I think you're going to be surprised by just how difficult this is. BUT ... I sure want to hear how it goes :)
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #29  
I will reply with my results when I do the fluid change. It probably won't be enough, but I'm stubborn enough to try!
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #30  
This is my strap wrench. 18" Rigid with a 2" web strap. Only time will tell. If it doesn't work I have a big set of Chanel Locks.
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Is that strap rubberized?. If it is it might be wide enough to grab well enough so that you will not slip. I say it is iffy, but would be happy to hear about how it goes.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #31  
There have been a few folks who have accomplished the hydraulic filter removal with a strap wrench- but not many. Maybe you will be the third or fourth.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #32  
I removed the hydraulic filter on my gear (not hydrostat) tranny DK45S with a strap wrench for the 400 hour service. The trick was to clean the outside of the filter first and remove all dirt so the strap can get a grip. Otherwise it just slid on the dusty dirt film.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #33  
It's not rubberized, but that's a good idea. I could spread a little left over silicone sealant on the strap to make it grip better. If that doesn't work I could always just run some screws through the strap into the filter. I'm not above doing that.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #34  
It's not rubberized, but that's a good idea. I could spread a little left over silicone sealant on the strap to make it grip better. If that doesn't work I could always just run some screws through the strap into the filter. I'm not above doing that.

I wonder if cleaning the filter with some rubbing alcohol wouldn't help getting a grip. Getting all chance of oil and grime off of that filter and making it squeaky clean.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #35  
I wonder if cleaning the filter with some rubbing alcohol wouldn't help getting a grip. Getting all chance of oil and grime off of that filter and making it squeaky clean.

I also tried that to no avail.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #36  
Seems to me ... after all the pondering and hemhawing, it would just be simpler to buy the chain wrench. Just sayin' :)
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #37  
I used the channel lock style filter wrench with no problems on my first 50 hour service.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #38  
I used the channel lock style filter wrench with no problems on my first 50 hour service.

+1 (for third time!) for the Channellock filter wrench. I have the 12" (range 2 3/8" to 4 1/2") which fits all the filters on my DK35 HST. There are also 15.5" and 9" models. For me it is handier than a strap wrench but I don't how it compares to a chain wrench(never used one). After breaking my strap wrench I went with the Channellock pliers because it had high ratings on the Amazon and Canadian Tire sites.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #39  
+1 (for third time!) for the Channellock filter wrench. I have the 12" (range 2 3/8" to 4 1/2") which fits all the filters on my DK35 HST. There are also 15.5" and 9" models. For me it is handier than a strap wrench but I don't how it compares to a chain wrench(never used one). After breaking my strap wrench I went with the Channellock pliers because it had high ratings on the Amazon and Canadian Tire sites.

I have been using the channel lock style wrench for years now on everything. It hasn't let me down and is much more user friendly than the chain style. I have a full set of chain, strap and socket type filter wrench sets but it seems I don't need anything but the channel lock style.
 
   / Question on DK45SE HST 50-hour Service #40  
I will go ahead and pick up a set of the Channellocks just to have in the tool box. Looks like I could use them for other filters I have to change also.
 

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