Comparison m7060 or 5085e

[MtnViewRanch]

Once you get to this size tractor and this much money, you should get a tractor that will fit your needs now and in the future. You're right, very few people do trade them in, they just learn to live with the shortcomings.

The two main uses you state, food plots and mowing are where more gears are a great feature. Running ground engaging equipment and mowers with plenty of gears can be downright fun as opposed to too fast or aggravatingly slow. Also on the M series Deere and the LS P series you have electronic hi/lo which gives you an extra gear at the push of the button when things bog down.

You should also get at least a 540/750 PTO which is great for mowing with the bigger tractors. Mine has the 540/750/1000 and ground driven feature so I can run anything.

You can get'er done with any of those tractors, for sure. But if you get the 12 speed I guarantee you will be wishing for higher or lower speeds. Not enough to trade it in but you will say to yourself at least, "If I had it to do over again...."

Lack of gears is my number one of only a couple of dislikes that I have with my Mahindra 7520. 16x16 would probably do it for me though. I personally would not purchase another new utility tractor of this size without having at a minimum a 16x16 transmission. While the 12x12 works, there are times when the "right" gear just is not there. A lot of people that have not operated in those types of conditions simply do not understand, but it is a fact and why so many other options ARE out there. If there was no need, there wouldn't be any other options, but there is and there are.

All things that should be considered IMO.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

Lack of gears is my number one of only a couple of dislikes that I have with my Mahindra 7520. 16x16 would probably do it for me though. I personally would not purchase another new utility tractor of this size without having at a minimum a 16x16 transmission. While the 12x12 works, there are times when the "right" gear just is not there. A lot of people that have not operated in those types of conditions simply do not understand, but it is a fact and why so many other options ARE out there. If there was no need, there wouldn't be any other options, but there is and there are.

All things that should be considered IMO.

When I was looking at the NH T4.75, the ones in stock at the dealer had the 12x12 synchro shuttle with no creeper gear. I wanted the 20x20 hydraulic shuttle with creeper. The salesman tried his best to convince me that the the 12x12 was plenty and that anything more was a waste.

I'm sure 12x12 would be ok, but 16x16 or 20x20 would be better. Life is all about options.

Of course, I grew up driving old Minneapolis Moline tractors that only had 4 forward gears and 1 reverse, so I'm sure I could get by with whatever I had if I had to.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

When I was looking at the NH T4.75, the ones in stock at the dealer had the 12x12 synchro shuttle with no creeper gear. I wanted the 20x20 hydraulic shuttle with creeper. The salesman tried his best to convince me that the the 12x12 was plenty and that anything more was a waste.

I'm sure 12x12 would be ok, but 16x16 or 20x20 would be better. Life is all about options.

Of course, I grew up driving old Minneapolis Moline tractors that only had 4 forward gears and 1 reverse, so I'm sure I could get by with whatever I had if I had to.

I often run my tractor to it's absolute fullest capacity, maybe not a good idea, but being a weekender it is what it is. If I had a 16x16 or a 20x20 :drool: running it in these conditions would be much easier on the tractor and being able to split those gears would get work done faster for me. :cool2:

 

[bushhog28]

Would you run ag r1 or industrial r4 tires in this? I need ground clearance more than tougher tires I think. There are mudholes like that on the property and bigger ones. Which tires will give me the best chance on not getting stuck with a tractor of these sizes?

 

[arlen4720]

R1's would be the best. No doubt about it. They have much better traction.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

With tractors of this size, the typical R1 tires give you 30% more traction than the R4s. R1s will be 6" taller, so 3" more ground clearance. If traction and clearance are high priorities, then R1s would be the way to go.

I know with our property after we got burned out back in 03, I didn't want to chance R1s and went with the R4s so that I would have a tough tire. Ended up with 10 ply tires and they still look like new 10 years later. Only been sort of stuck once and it was my own fault. Had to disconnect from the implement and just drove away.

If you don't want any flats, then R4s or non std R1s that have 8-10 plys would be the way to go.

 

[bushhog28]

So would you guys rather drive around this property with a 6000 lb 2wd Kubota mx4700 or a 10000 lb mfwd JD 5085e? The heavier weight does make me nervous about finding soft ground. I just wonder if the mfwd will greatly outweigh the extra weight.

 

[bushhog28]

So would you guys rather drive around this property with a 6000 lb 2wd Kubota mx4700 or a 10000 lb mfwd JD 5085e? The heavier weight does make me nervous about finding soft ground. I just wonder if the mfwd will greatly outweigh the extra weight.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

If the MX4700 was 4wd, then I'd prefer it. But since it's 2wd, I'd take the 4wd 5085e.

But remember that you can get anything stuck, including a dozer. You'll have to feel your way around the land to test the limits. Go slow, and use your 4wd, diff lock and FEL to get out of small troubles. If you go charging headlong into the muck, you may be looking for a bigger tractor to pull you out.

 

[bushhog28]

That LS p7010c is very tempting. 37100 dollars for one with loader. 13k lower than the john Deere....the plant is 2 hours away from me. Wish I could find more about these things.