So much for a Nissan Leaf!

[Loren49]

Tesla Stock Hits All-Time High After Analyst Praises Company

Tesla Motors stock jumps, nearing a record high - Business - The Boston Globe
The stock has nearly doubled this year and is up more than 700 percent since early 2013.

Loren

 

[Citydude]

Tesla Stock Hits All-Time High After Analyst Praises Company Tesla Motors stock jumps, nearing a record high - Business - The Boston Globe The stock has nearly doubled this year and is up more than 700 percent since early 2013. Loren

Enron had similar early results.....

 

[houstonscott]

Electric vehicle sales are running out of gas - LA Times A little reality. HS

 

[DarkBlack]

Loren,

It's time I say something positive to your posts....so...thanks for being internet kind, posting just the links, on that last one.:thumbsup:

 

[Loren49]

Loren,

It's time I say something positive to your posts....so...thanks for being internet kind, posting just the links, on that last one.:thumbsup:

Thanks but I must confess the statement was from the site.

I prefer to copy from a referenced site, especially when it appears to be in conflict with an opinion which seems to be stated as fact. Its easier to ignore information if the reader needs to go to the site to read it. When it is in bold print its tougher to make believe its not so.

I will try to copy only what I feel is necessary. Sometimes it just doesn't mean that much to say something over and over with no references of supporting information.

I am more skeptical of no information than of too much information.

Thanks for the positive comment.

Loren

 

[Loren49]

Italy's Crisp Carabinieri Get New Patrol Cars: Tiny Electric Minicars

The plug-in patrol cars will be used in city centers, on islands, and in the zero-emission zone of Expo Milan, an exposition of environmentally-friendly technology that's been running in the city for the past few months.

Loren

 

[houstonscott]

Italy's Crisp Carabinieri Get New Patrol Cars: Tiny Electric Minicars The plug-in patrol cars will be used in city centers, on islands, and in the zero-emission zone of Expo Milan, an exposition of environmentally-friendly technology that's been running in the city for the past few months. Loren

Cool, better than a bike patrol in small town with narrow streets with lots of pedestrian traffic. HS

 

[Redneck in training]

Clarkson is right - driving style is all important. Sure, you drive a Prius at max speed (don't know what that was on the track, but 104 MPH is the mechanical limit) and you will get sucky MPG. The Prius gets good MPG because it has:
- a small gas engine (not suited to high speeds)
- a planetary gear transmission (not suited to high speeds)
- an electric motor and relatively small battery (not suited to high speeds)
- is driven on roads, not race tracks

Those things combined in normal driving, a Prius will beat any ICE based vehicle other than a scooter or small motorcycle.
My sister lives in So. Cal. She gets only 45 MPG in her Prius. WAY too much traffic to drive efficiently. But 45 MPG combined is still better than any other car.

The Top Gear "test" ran the battery to "0" (which would actually be about 40% because the computers won't let it go lower) in the first few seconds. Clearly there is no efficiency with the accelerator floored.

And yes Spiker, lots of cold start short trips will not yield good MPG in a Prius ... or ANY OTHER vehicle. As will lots of cold start trips in warm weather. But the Prius will still have better MPG. And yes, when it is cold, the Prius engine doesn't shut down even at lights if the heater is running. The percentage winter hit in a Prius is higher than it is for other vehicles.
Put it on the road, 65 MPH for hours and it will get 50 to 55 MPG assuming you aren't going over the Rockies.

To double the speed of a car you have to increase power eight times. Rollind drag increases lineraly with speed while aerodynamic drag increases with square of speed. That is why Bugatti Veyron (that is small two seater with low C) needs 1200 HP to reach 253 miles/hour or whatever its maximum speed is.

 

[buickanddeere]

Lithium , is a soft white metal. There is a limited amount of accessible earth salts to extract lithium from.

 

[buickanddeere]

How Coal Works | Union of Concerned Scientists

A Case Study: The Side Effects of a Coal Plant

The 2.2 billion gallons of water it uses for cooling is raised 16 degrees F on average before being discharged into a lake or river. By warming the water year-round it changes the habitat of that body of water.

Majority of scientists agree that carbon emissions are a problem.
Loren

That warm CCW discharge water doesn't seem to be a problem for the fish. The salmon and trout are always swimming in the channel and immediate area of the lake year around. They often leap out of the water while catching insects and smaller fish.
A majority of scientists fund their research through grants after applying for the $$$. How many grants is a scientist going to receive if he proves CO2 is not a problem ?