BX - Buyer's Remorse? Loader remorse, anyway.

[TripleR]

Funny how only those that disagree with me feel that way.

If I would only admit that I was not insulted everything would work out.

It seems to me at least that you are overly sensitive on the whole BX thing and see attacks or insults where none exist. I wrote a post similar to Roger's and Scoobey but deleted it. Many of us like Roger have a BX as well as other machines and have operated them for many years and appreciate their advantages but recognize their limitations as we see them. Now you may disagree, but no use getting excited about it.

 

[94BULLITT]

It seems to me at least that you are overly sensitive on the whole BX thing and see attacks or insults where none exist. I wrote a post similar to Roger's and Scoobey but deleted it. Many of us like Roger have a BX as well as other machines and have operated them for many years and appreciate their advantages but recognize their limitations as we see them. Now you may disagree, but no use getting excited about it.

Thanks.

 

[Jay4200]

You should consider yourself blessed in that you have both a bigger tool and a handy BX!

Hey - lets not start bringing my 'bigger tool' into this...and yes, I do consider myself blessed.

I have to admit, I was thinking about some responses to this thread all weekend, as I worked my L4200 digging out my barn. And yes, I did get a kick out of the rabid BX-owners who take a derogatory comment on their machine with the same bravado as if I called their mom a **** or something. I was chuckling to myself about the suggestions that I just don't know how to operate machine from the self-professed pro heavy equipment operators, who think moving 5 yards of material is a big deal - which I suppose is if all you have is a BX. Chuckling because I dug and moved more dirt in one day this past weekend with my loader than most of these "pros" have done in their lifetimes. Don't get me wrong - I am not disparaging anyone, or even roostering - just a fact. I'm dropping the ground level in my 60x60 barn somewhere between a half foot and a foot, and while it's only sand and boulders, it's a LOT of material to dig up, then drive around back and dump - slow and laborious, but I don't have a dump truck. I also snagged the doorway with my blade and knocked the front wall of the building off...TWICE! Doh. I did a lot of landscaping back in the day using my loader, which is a lousy tool for the job - but back a couple of years before I sprung for a blade and rake (which are the right tools for the job) I did a number of smaller loader jobs like moving and spreading a dozen dump loads of gravel to build up a section of my property. I also put down 100 yards of loam when I re-did the lawn. My biggest was when I re-did the driveway (1100 feet) and built a lawn at my entire camp (about an acre of grass), then moved and graded 35 tri-axles of material - 20 for the drive (almost 500 tons) and 15 into the grounds (360 tons) - all with my loader. I actually wore out a bucket.

So anyway, loader inadequacies aside, I bought my BX specifically to mow. I does do a nice enough job mowing, but begs the question...why? As far as I can tell, the main performance problems with the BX are brought about mostly by the little wheels - they make the ride rough and decrease relative traction. Given that a similarly powered B isn't really much bigger, is actually slightly lighter, and is about the same price, BUT has bigger wheels and better implement capabilities, I have to wonder why they make BXs at all. What IS the utility and/or advantage of the little wheels?

 

[Cherokee140]

What ever you do PLEASE don't tell my grandson it's not a REAL tractor. When I gave it to him he said it was great but that REAL tractors are orange like yours Papa .Out of the mouths of babes.

I love the photo with him on his own machine, you should get a can of orange and get his setup like yours.

On the day we got ours my wife myself and my son (17) all took turns digging up an old stump (playing)...We had a younger neighbor boy come over and showed him how to run the "digger", fast forward to summer and I helped his dad replace the covert going to his house, that job took almost all day (I guess limitations of a little machine) I doubt it being run by a 6yr old had anything to do with it taking so long. He basically did the entire job himself....except for moving around, and I did push in most of the dirt, but he steered. I don't think there was a little kid that was more happy. His folks just got divorced and he has been having a time of it....it was good to see the little guy having fun....even if it did cost me a tank of diesel.

 

[Cherokee140]

Hey - lets not start bringing my 'bigger tool' into this...and yes, I do consider myself blessed.

I have to admit, I was thinking about some responses to this thread all weekend, as I worked my L4200 digging out my barn. And yes, I did get a kick out of the rabid BX-owners who take a derogatory comment their machine

And I get a kick out of people that lead such an empty life that they think about comments on an internet forum all weekend, and don't worry about my mother she was a ****....I never had a mom. At least you do admit you made derogatory comments on the machine, now all you need to do is admit to telling people that post videos and give reviews misrepresent the ability of their machine....a post that is now missing for some reason. Perhaps we don't misrepresent the ability of the machine and the time it takes perhaps we know how to use it, or are smart enough to buy a machine that is right sized for our needs. I am guessing that those that think it is nothing more then a lawnmower are the ones that did not research that well or did not understand what they researched and bought the wrong machine.

 

[GolfAddict]

It wouldn't take all weekend if you'd get a real tractor. A L4200 is just a glorified BX.

 

[GBOUTDOORS]

Hey - lets not start bringing my 'bigger tool' into this...and yes, I do consider myself blessed.

I have to admit, I was thinking about some responses to this thread all weekend, as I worked my L4200 digging out my barn. And yes, I did get a kick out of the rabid BX-owners who take a derogatory comment on their machine with the same bravado as if I called their mom a **** or something. I was chuckling to myself about the suggestions that I just don't know how to operate machine from the self-professed pro heavy equipment operators, who think moving 5 yards of material is a big deal - which I suppose is if all you have is a BX. Chuckling because I dug and moved more dirt in one day this past weekend with my loader than most of these "pros" have done in their lifetimes. Don't get me wrong - I am not disparaging anyone, or even roostering - just a fact. I'm dropping the ground level in my 60x60 barn somewhere between a half foot and a foot, and while it's only sand and boulders, it's a LOT of material to dig up, then drive around back and dump - slow and laborious, but I don't have a dump truck. I also snagged the doorway with my blade and knocked the front wall of the building off...TWICE! Doh. I did a lot of landscaping back in the day using my loader, which is a lousy tool for the job - but back a couple of years before I sprung for a blade and rake (which are the right tools for the job) I did a number of smaller loader jobs like moving and spreading a dozen dump loads of gravel to build up a section of my property. I also put down 100 yards of loam when I re-did the lawn. My biggest was when I re-did the driveway (1100 feet) and built a lawn at my entire camp (about an acre of grass), then moved and graded 35 tri-axles of material - 20 for the drive (almost 500 tons) and 15 into the grounds (360 tons) - all with my loader. I actually wore out a bucket.

So anyway, loader inadequacies aside, I bought my BX specifically to mow. I does do a nice enough job mowing, but begs the question...why? As far as I can tell, the main performance problems with the BX are brought about mostly by the little wheels - they make the ride rough and decrease relative traction. Given that a similarly powered B isn't really much bigger, is actually slightly lighter, and is about the same price, BUT has bigger wheels and better implement capabilities, I have to wonder why they make BXs at all. What IS the utility and/or advantage of the little wheels?

It did not happen without pictures !!!!

 

[Deerherd]

I helped his dad replace the covert going to his house, that job took almost all day (I guess limitations of a little machine) I doubt it being run by a 6yr old had anything to do with it taking so long. He basically did the entire job himself....except for moving around, and I did push in most of the dirt, but he steered. I don't think there was a little kid that was more happy. His folks just got divorced and he has been having a time of it....it was good to see the little guy having fun....even if it did cost me a tank of diesel.

I thought you BX's were just overly sensitive, but now I'm voting for crazy. Letting a six year old operate a backhoe, lawn tractor or not, is lunacy. Riding on your lap while filling in around a culvert isn't very smart either. You won't see those two photos on the cover of the Kubota catalog in the near future. I'm sure his mother would LOVE to see that video, parents being divorced and all.....

 

[Bota4me]

It wouldn't take all weekend if you'd get a real tractor. A L4200 is just a glorified BX.

your right golf he could of at least bought an m59
I think my old craftsman 19hp twin is more tractor than that l42

 

[Cherokee140]

I thought you BX's were just overly sensitive, but now I'm voting for crazy. Letting a six year old operate a backhoe, lawn tractor or not, is lunacy. Riding on your lap while filling in around a culvert isn't very smart either. You won't see those two photos on the cover of the Kubota catalog in the near future. I'm sure his mother would LOVE to see that video, parents being divorced and all.....

So you are the reason we have backup cameras in all cars now and lawn mowers that will not mow in reverse. I may be a crazy lunatic but at least I am not ******* stupid.

You see you can actually do stuff like this and be very safe about it....you know doing the same things we all did (well perhaps not you) back in the 60's 70's and even early 80's before people like you decided we needed to be protected from our own self. And you know what, we all did not die in horrible disfiguring accidents, we actually had some fun, sitting on our dads lap (if you had one I made due with an uncle and grandpa) and learned to drive a stick shift at 6...and on the highway no less....it however was Denver in the 1960 so it was not too much traffic as I remember....but I do remember that VW square back, I would love to have one today for that only reason....in blue.

Want another shocker, my son was mowing the yard John Deere 300, hydro control was up on the dash, riding a motorcycle (not minibike) with a clutch and gears, doing his own laundry, making his own bed and cooking real food, hamburgers, chili, pork chops....at age 6....and he is still alive. He is also independent and can do anything on his own, and figure out problems arriving at workable solutions on his own, not calling daddy for every flat tire, or driving into a ditch, (he is 17, and suffers from normal teen idiocy) I raised an adult not a child as most people do in this day and age.

The boy next door is the same, but he is on a small zero turn....I don't know about the rest of the stuff.

So quick to judge, and as usual has no idea on what he talks about.