How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ?

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   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #241  
Being a Canadian, I have a different perspective on the matter of carrying a pistol than many American citizens do. I do have several American-citizen relatives who routinely carry weapons on their person, or in their car. They justify (appropriately) the need for this because they live in areas where crime is common and where it is dangerous to live. I sympathise with their position. So far, in Canada, the areas which are dangerous enough to warrant carrying a deadly weapon are few, but these areas are growing to include all major cities, unfortunately. Drugs are the main reason for this, but so is unrestrained immigration from certain third-world countries, where violent crime is a normal aspect of life. We Canadians will, sooner or later, need to change our anti-gun attitudes, no doubt. In the meanwhile, I do not wish to ever have to carry a gun, never mind use it in self-defense. Our police agencies react to the idea of common citizens carrying guns with understandable horror. Even in Canada, police are in great danger from criminals with guns (rifles included). Police agency attitudes are understandable, but one-sided. In Canada, one cannot ever shoot anyone without a very serious legal problem resulting. Even a home invasion is not grounds to shoot a criminal if one is not a police officer. Canadian attitudes are such that a police response is adequate in all circumstances, but even the cops cannot undo an act of crime which gets victim killed by a criminal... The police attitude is patently biased..and unrealistic. But so is the idea that every citizen should have the right to carry a sidearm in the modern day...too much such jingoistic talk does not help. I wish I could suggest something in between the extremes...but there appears to be no such option open to suggest. Every argument fails for one reason or another. Crime, drugs, poverty pay no attention to right and wrong. Violent crime happens everywhere. Canada is no exception, so maybe the American attitude is the default correct answer if citizens need to defend themselves..but who protects americans from themselves?..Can anyone answer that?
Good piece, but, remember YOU can't make that decision for yourself or your family in Canada, you don't have that "right" in Canada, the government has made it for you. I prefer a government were I make those decisions for me and my family, not the big government. HS
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #242  
Being a Canadian,

..but who protects americans from themselves?..Can anyone answer that?

Thanks for the Canadian perspective. It must be interesting living there. BTW I was in your town once on vacation. Spent 2 weeks going thru Maine, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. Beautiful. Didn't need the gun but "Never leave home without it".

Your Canadian perspective sounds like most of our Liberals. They'd like the US to be just like you and Australia. Only cops and criminals have guns. And think about the response time if you dial 911 during a home invasion? How much damage is that criminal going to do in 10-15 min? And you can't shoot someone who invades your HOME?!?!

I'm guessing you don have guns or like guns.
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #243  
In answer to the original question - Many have them
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #244  
My bet is if the Canadian people were to vote country wide for a second amendment type constitutional protection the people of Canada would pass that in a gigantic majority. HS
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #245  
That's why I would not live there for all the tea in China.:)

You sure about that? In 2007 it was estimated that China produced $1.6B worth of tea.... Maybe just an apartment overlooking Centra Park?
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #247  
Exactly what I thought. MoKelly
Well, unless you witnessed it yourself you can't have anymore understanding than anyone else. Proximity to ferguson is meaningless. HS
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #248  
But so is the idea that every citizen should have the right to carry a sidearm in the modern day...too much such jingoistic talk does not help.

I wish I could suggest something in between the extremes...but there appears to be no such option open to suggest. Every argument fails for one reason or another. Crime, drugs, poverty pay no attention to right and wrong.

Violent crime happens everywhere. Canada is no exception, so maybe the American attitude is the default correct answer if citizens need to defend themselves..but who protects Americans from themselves?..Can anyone answer that?

On that, I will have to disagree and I am certainly not alone, while it is virtually impossible in some jurisdictions to obtain a permit to carry concealed, since Florida implemented it "Shall Issues" statutes, many states including mine have adopted almost identical laws without "blood in the streets" as was promised by those opposed. I know of no state who has rescinded its ccw permit system once implemented, so it seems to be working.

Most of the states were like Canada until relatively recently without any permitting system, it didn't work, we didn't like it, so through our legislators we changed it.

What is thought best for Canada may not be for the US or vice versa, so I guess its good we live where we do.

Contrary to what many may think, not all that many of us bother to get a ccw and many of those don't carry regularly, but it's great to have that option.
 
   / How many have concealed carry permit to carry a gun ? #249  
Just remember ... every infringement you allow on this right ( or ANY right for that matter) is a reduction in your freedom and/or liberty.

Well said.
 
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On that, I will have to disagree and I am certainly not alone, while it is virtually impossible in some jurisdictions to obtain a permit to carry concealed, since Florida implemented it "Shall Issues" statutes, many states including mine have adopted almost identical laws without "blood in the streets" as was promised by those opposed. I know of no state who has rescinded its ccw permit system once implemented, so it seems to be working.

Most of the states were like Canada until relatively recently without any permitting system, it didn't work, we didn't like it, so through our legislators we changed it.

What is thought best for Canada may not be for the US or vice versa, so I guess its good we live where we do.

Contrary to what many may think, not all that many of us bother to get a ccw and many of those don't carry regularly, but it's great to have that option.

I started this thread...the OP.....I did get my Weapons Carry License, that's what it's called in GA., covers carrying any kind of weapon...swords, long knives etc.

I carried my Ruger LCP 380 concealed for awhile and now within the last yr. I barely ever carry it....So I agree Tripple R...but nice to know I can.
 
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