Favorite Diesel Fuel Additives

[rswyan]

Fuel Additive Test - Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel - Diesel Power Magazine

 

[rswyan]

The “Real” Truth About Fuel Additives - Fleetowner.com

 

[IslandTractor]

The ball wear test maybe ideal .However precision repeatable labratory tests using diesel and various fuel additives .this beats what Bubba down at the tavern thinks works best.

Absolutely agree. Process indicators aren't as good as outcome data but certainly preferred to rumor and anecdote.

 

[IslandTractor]

Fuel Additive Test - Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel - Diesel Power Magazine

Really? Driving a single pickup truck for a total of 2000 miles on a non standard course is supposed to generate data that is convincing??? If you read between the lines, the reporter simply filled his pickup truck as needed and added different additives over the course of a few months. That ain't science in my book.

 

[IslandTractor]

The “Real” Truth About Fuel Additives - Fleetowner.com

Yeah, I read that too. Lots of words and lab measurements. Not a single drop of data on MPG however. Just claims that some people have reported personal experience with better MPG. That ain't data either, that's just passing along rumors.

And, let's not forget that the author owns an fuel additive manufacturing company and certainly is not an unbiased observer.

 

[IslandTractor]

The è¿*eal Truth About Fuel Additives - Fleetowner.com

Yeah, I read that too. Lots of words and lab measurements. Not a single drop of data on MPG however. Just claims that some people have reported personal experience with better MPG. That ain't data either, that's just passing along rumors.

And, let's not forget that the author owns an fuel additive manufacturing company and certainly is not an unbiased observer.

 

[MikePA]

Really? Driving a single pickup truck for a total of 2000 miles on a non standard course is supposed to generate data that is convincing??? If you read between the lines, the reporter simply filled his pickup truck as needed and added different additives over the course of a few months. That ain't science in my book.

I read the lines, instead of between them.

• Each additive was mixed at the manufacturers' recommended ratio and poured in the empty tank first, before filling up with fuel.

• Eleven thousand miles were driven during testing: first with no product, then with two-stroke oil, Opti-Lube, and FPPF.

And, let's not forget that the author owns an fuel additive manufacturing company and certainly is not an unbiased observer.

How do we know strangers on the Internet are not biased? The way some people don't give up trying to convince other strangers their opinion is the only right one, they sure seem to have an axe to grind.

 

[rswyan]

How do we know strangers on the Internet are not biased? The way some people don't give up trying to convince other strangers their opinion is the only right one, they sure seem to have an axe to grind.

The real crack up is when they can't see the flaws in their own reasoning ... when they have previously condemned similar/analogous flawed reasoning in others ...

:laughing:

 

[IslandTractor]

The real crack up is when they can't see the flaws in their own reasoning ... when they have previously condemned similar/analogous flawed reasoning in others ...

:laughing:

Since when is asking to see good data evidence of bias or flawed reasoning?

 

[IslandTractor]

I read the lines, instead of between them.

• Each additive was mixed at the manufacturers' recommended ratio and poured in the empty tank first, before filling up with fuel.

• Eleven thousand miles were driven during testing: first with no product, then with two-stroke oil, Opti-Lube, and FPPF.



How do we know strangers on the Internet are not biased? The way some people don't give up trying to convince other strangers their opinion is the only right one, they sure seem to have an axe to grind.

Bottom line, this was a poorly designed protocol (no standardized course, only a single truck, essentially what is called a "convenience" sample in the business of study design. It is very limited and fine as a pilot but doesn't give nearly the quality of data to hang your hat on with regard to effectiveness of additives on MPG. Besides, it was done by a magazine. Where is the manufacturer's data? They are the ones making the claim. Where is the data they base their advertising claims on??

I don't think I am "biased", I am simply skeptical. I've asked to see data to unseat my skepticism but all that folks have come up with are amateurish "studies" and letters of rebuttal. As the old commercial used to ask, "Where's the beef?"