Reloading ammo

   / Reloading ammo
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Thanks for all the responses. Now to talk to my partner and see what he wants to do. Gun show Friday, Sat and Sun so maybe an opportunity will come up.
 
   / Reloading ammo #32  
ps, priming on the press is sometimes harder for some to master... but the hand primers are pretty fool proof. i have used the lee and rcbs. i tend to like the rcbs the best.
 
   / Reloading ammo #33  
Thanks for all the responses. Now to talk to my partner and see what he wants to do. Gun show Friday, Sat and Sun so maybe an opportunity will come up.

Let us know what you finally get Gary, and if you need any help with anything, I think there are enough of us here into reloading to be able to help out a bit.
 
   / Reloading ammo #34  

DANGER !!!!

Be sure to seat case primers fully into the primer pocket. I know a man who lost his lower jaw and right thumb because he tried to load a hot .300 Magnum into a re-worked '98 Mauser bolt action rifle, while the primer was slightly proud of the case. When he tried to close the bolt, the primer detonated the round and it blew his thumb and lower jaw away, when the bolt flew back. He very nearly died before he could reach a hospital...and this man was a gunsmith.(he thought). I am not a fan of WW2 1898 Mauser pattern bolt action rifles, suspicious of their metallurgy and prisoner of war labour manufacture.
Familiarity breeds contempt. Always inspect rounds after reloading for issues. Any mil surplus weapons must be thoroughly inspected, especially the head spacing, extractor mechanism, and proof marking, before firing. I also use dummy rounds to check the action for function before loading live ammo into a strange weapon.

There are thousands of sport-conversion mil surplus Mauser actions out there. Not all of these have been proof-fired before sale. Just a word to the wise, guys.

I too prefer RCBS to Lee Loaders. I use a Rockchucker Junior single-stage press and a case holder tray to hold cases before each stage of reloading. Slow, methodical and careful attention to detail, especially the primer and the powder-charge loading. I use a beam scale to weigh every charge of powder if I am hot-loading rifle ammo. I always inspect my fired round cases before reloading them. Much-fired and re-sized brass gets brittle and small pieces can be left in the chamber occasionally, with disastrous results, when attempting to load the next round. If loads are hot enough to perforate a primer, you must be very watchful of the cases condition subsequently. Hard extraction of re-sized or fire-formed cases is a good indicator that you are pushing your luck with hand load charges. You won't even hear the boom of the faulty round that kills you.

Time-expired double-based powder is also deadly stuff to handle. Never trust it, pour it out gently and burn it safely with a length of fuse, well outside the house. Protect the eyes from flash.

Jix
 
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   / Reloading ammo #35  
Well, I did say in my tutorial, to check every round for high primers and other defects.:) IMG_20131123_141904_416.jpg

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/296858-lets-reload-some-ammo.html?highlight=ammo
 
   / Reloading ammo #36  
I agree, primer seating is case prep 101.

As for Mauser 98 actions being unsafe? I don't agree. They are some of the most robust actions.
 
   / Reloading ammo #37  
I agree, primer seating is case prep 101.

As for Mauser 98 actions being unsafe? I don't agree. They are some of the most robust actions.

Yep, I have never heard of any 98 Mausers being weak. Some of the old Springfield 1903 actions were not heat treated correctly, and they are more or less a copy of the 98 action. But German steel is pretty good stuff.
 
   / Reloading ammo #38  
Yep early 03, but not 03a3

98 actions are solid.

Get older actions like 96 and I would not hot shot them though..
 
   / Reloading ammo #39  
Yes, the M93 (lots of Spanish Mauser's) are the ones that you see talk of being weak. It's not really that they are weak ... but there was an influx of them that were sporterized and rebarreled from 7x57 to .308 win and that's too much of a pressure difference in the eyes of some. Some lab said they proofed it but the prevailing conventional wisdom says don't do it. Jerry Kuhnhausen (the Yoda of gunsmithing) talks about "setback" of the bolt face/lugs in his Mauser book due to metal being soft. They are perfectly fine if you keep them in the pressure range they were designed for.

M98's are among the strongest there is ... once the bolt is fully locked! The story jix told sounds like the bolt face set off the high primer before the bolt was closed/locked all the way. I guess a sufficently hot load wouldn't be contained by a bolt setting off a high primer when the bolt has just begun to lock ... sending the bolt backward like a rocket. Plausible.
 
   / Reloading ammo #40  
... things like this:

M1916 Spanish Mauser .308 Win - $169.95 | Slickguns

NATO 7.62x51 "Does Not" equal .308 win. NATO 7.62 is 50,000psi while .308 Win. is 62,000psi

... shooting hot .308 rounds in this might work for a while but then .... boom! If you value your life, eyes, face ... don't do it.
 

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