MY local fire department has STUPID policies.....

[dave1949]

Pallets! :laughing:

 

[TomSeller]

Think of all those dang nails and staples. Whenever I burn anything structural, I dig a big a hole first, then burn in the hole, then cover the burn pile a week later. Less lame cows that way.

 

[texasjohn]

Anybody want to bet that the line of people handing the pallets up are all safety roped down?

 

[zzvyb6]

About 15 years ago, some moron idiot started a brush pile 1/2 the size of the OPs. The heat of combustion from the spruce braches, twigs, hay, straw and lumber lifted sparks and burning brush over onto my property (1000 feet away). It caught the field, evergreens and even my fence posts on fire and ruined my Christmas trees and expressway blocking treeline. Over 50 beautiful trees. It also floated over onto his garage and burned that to the ground. My burned fence posts are still there as a testament to his carelessness, stupidity and ignorance. . If I had been home at the time, his house, cars and anything else on his property would have been torched or melted.

Not saying that was deliberate, but it DID happen, because he didn't think it would get out of control. He even had to pay for new electric poles because they got charred, even with snow on the ground. He's long gone but I still have to look at his ugly residue.

A year or so ago, a teenage girl was around a burn pile when someone thought they would enhance their brush fire with some gasoline. It exploded and burned her very badly. She lived for a few months and just recently passed away.

The rules are there because all you need is ONE dumb ash with some book learning who thinks its an inconvenience to involve the fire experts. Just ONE and other lives are affected.

 

[300UGUY]

Let's see...

Pager goes off
Leave work to get to station(leave full time job that pays the bills).
Get to station
Wait for other volunteers who had to drop work to respond
Gear up
Go out on call
Put fire out
Deal with landowner
And it was a state ordinance from Air Resources, who now have to be called.
Finally, get back to station, gear down, clean up
Back to work late
Boss is not happy
I'm not happy
Wife not happy showing up late because had to finish work after being a couple hours on call
Kids missed Dad cause they are already in bed.
And pager goes off at 2am for CPR in progress.

Ya, thanks!

Just burn it...

We are in Michigan. We don't have forest fires, especially in the winter. Everything is frozen, and covered in snow. The humidity in winter here is frequently still over 50%. In my township, we don't require any burn permits, period.

 

[dragoneggs]

Think of all those dang nails and staples. Whenever I burn anything structural, I dig a big a hole first, then burn in the hole, then cover the burn pile a week later. Less lame cows that way.

I don't have cows but I do care about the deer and black bear that wander by. I keep a dedicated spot and use a magnet.

 

[MossRoad]

Sore loser, eh?

I asked a simple question, that could save the OP a lot of aggravation. If he could get a permit that lasts X amount of days, he wouldn't have to wait for anyone. How you turn that into "lawyer talk"?

 

[MossRoad]

You can still obtain a permit to burn lumber in Alesund, Norway (People Of Alesund, Norway, Celebrate Midsummer With A Giant Bonfire)

Steve

Nice! :thumbsup:

 

[MossRoad]

Speaking of fires, the OP drops this incendiary thread on TBN then runs from the flames! Where'd he go? :laughing:

 

[dave1949]

I asked a simple question, that could save the OP a lot of aggravation. If he could get a permit that lasts X amount of days, he wouldn't have to wait for anyone. How you turn that into "lawyer talk"?

According to Bill's recounting of the rules his burn pile size requires an inspection. Regardless of how many days the permit is valid for, it would be most useful to be on-hand when that inspection happens. I doubt he was waiting all that day for that inspection if he was told they were not coming, coming tomorrow, or two days later or whenever. The life of the permit is superfluous if he can't get the inspection done.

It sounds like it wasn't made clear when/how the inspection would take place. He requested something that didn't happen and apparently was lead to believe it would. That's wrong. Bill shouldn't have to play 20 Questions with someone to drag the process and timing out of the people who administer the rules. How would anyone even know what questions need to be asked?

If there is a set of rules to follow then the township & fire dept. need to make that work in a reasonable way. For burning that means next half-day or next day in my mind to be useful in planning for the weather. If it is worth inspecting then it's worth setting a time for when that will happen. If that falls through, then phone. It's simple courtesy.

I am teasing you about "lawyer talk" because your questions won't fix the core problem but seem to attempt to excuse the failure.