Goose neck vs bumper pull

[Deere Dude]

Ditto with the GNs. I bought a 16,000# 28GN deck over PJ to use for a Wisconsin to TN move and to haul my tractor around. The trailer weighs 5-6000 if I remember. I loaded it to just shy of 14,000 on the axles which is what the tires are rated for. I weighed it at the scale each time. If it was light, I would go home an throw more stuff on. I made 6 round trips and never a problem at all. It pulled nice and smooth.
The turning radius is very long with them, longer than a bumper pull so I had to widen the approach to my driveway, which was okay because I have a 37' fifth wheel camper anyway and they behave exactly alike as far a towing.
When I picked it up at the dealer I paid for it and hooked it up and took off. As I was turning left in the parking lot I watched my side mirror and got a good attention getter. I almost clipped a car.

 

[streamin]

Thanks to all for the responses, that gives me a better idea and answers some key questions. Brett and Brandi, thanks for the generous offer.I would like to come by so I'll pm you.
I haul the tractor once a year from Texas to NY ( a few local trips in between)and I believe I would feel safer with the gn. However, the cost is a bit more than I expected but so be it.I think the bed room is ok since I can put more on the trailer. Thanks for all the pics, nice rigs!

 

[texasjohn]

Safety. A gooseneck is simply safer. More weight on tow wheels, better traction, less prone to jackknife. I've used both. Gooseneck now for me, all the way! No more white knuckles with gooseneck.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Safety. A gooseneck is simply safer. More weight on tow wheels, better traction, less prone to jackknife. I've used both. Gooseneck now for me, all the way! No more white knuckles with gooseneck.

X2. There are some diehard BP fanatics who don't get it or refuse to admit that a GN is better for pulling heavy with a pickup except in isolated instances. If losing bedspace is a concern, get a bigger trailer. I can put a GN where a BP trailer would only dream of going Especially when I can turn past 90 degrees to get out of somewhere I shouldn't have been! The other benefit is no more contraptions to connect when towing i.e. weight distributing hitch, sway control.

 

[ovrszd]

HK45 makes a very good point about the weight.

My dual wheeled, tandem axle, 20K lb rated, 30ft, GN trailer weighs 6800lbs. My Super Duty weighs 6800lbs. So I'm 13,600lbs empty. Gotta keep that in mind. Just because you buy a larger trailer doesn't mean you can haul all of the rating increase in freight. You have to minus off the additional empty weight.

So when I load my 10,500lb tractor, I am grossing 24,100lbs. I'm at the max of my truck and of my license.

 

[ovrszd]

I'll also add, concerning price. Be patient and shop for a used trailer. I paid $3200 for mine used.

 

[streamin]

Ditto with the GNs. I bought a 16,000# 28GN deck over PJ to use for a Wisconsin to TN move and to haul my tractor around. The trailer weighs 5-6000 if I remember. I loaded it to just shy of 14,000 on the axles which is what the tires are rated for. I weighed it at the scale each time. If it was light, I would go home an throw more stuff on. I made 6 round trips and never a problem at all. It pulled nice and smooth.
The turning radius is very long with them, longer than a bumper pull so I had to widen the approach to my driveway, which was okay because I have a 37' fifth wheel camper anyway and they behave exactly alike as far a towing.
When I picked it up at the dealer I paid for it and hooked it up and took off. As I was turning left in the parking lot I watched my side mirror and got a good attention getter. I almost clipped a car.

HK45 makes a very good point about the weight.

My dual wheeled, tandem axle, 20K lb rated, 30ft, GN trailer weighs 6800lbs. My Super Duty weighs 6800lbs. So I'm 13,600lbs empty. Gotta keep that in mind. Just because you buy a larger trailer doesn't mean you can haul all of the rating increase in freight. You have to minus off the additional empty weight.

So when I load my 10,500lb tractor, I am grossing 24,100lbs. I'm at the max of my truck and of my license.

What size truck are you using to pull these? Now I am questioning my F250.

 

[LD1]

So when I load my 10,500lb tractor, I am grossing 24,100lbs. I'm at the max of my truck and of my license.

What license do you have?

If you have a CDL A, you are not at the max of your license.

IF you do not have a CDL A, you are technically still over the limit.

The way the law reads (and my understanding of it), is if the GVWR of the truck + the GVWR of the trailer exceed 26000#, you need CDL A regardless of how much the load will actually weigh.

So, a 20k trailer only leave 6000# for a GVWR of the truck. Since I assume you have either a 3/4 ton or 1-ton, your truck GVWR is probably somewhere between 9000-12000. Which gives you a GCWR of 29k-32k.

 

[Diamondpilot]

X2. There are some diehard BP fanatics who don't get it or refuse to admit that a GN is better for pulling heavy with a pickup except in isolated instances. If losing bedspace is a concern, get a bigger trailer. I can put a GN where a BP trailer would only dream of going Especially when I can turn past 90 degrees to get out of somewhere I shouldn't have been! The other benefit is no more contraptions to connect when towing i.e. weight distributing hitch, sway control.

I don't disagree they pull better. It's all the limitations that come with them.

All I'm saying is think it out. I didn't in 2000 and bought a 25 plus 5 GN. Sold it 3 years later. Loss of bed space and inability to pull with our two SUV's made that decision for me.

Chris

 

[kevin37b]

I don't disagree they pull better. It's all the limitations that come with them.

All I'm saying is think it out. I didn't in 2000 and bought a 25 plus 5 GN. Sold it 3 years later. Loss of bed space and inability to pull with our two SUV's made that decision for me.

Chris

Chris , you are usually right on the money . I do not understand this post .Why would you pull that big of a trailer , assume BP with a SUV ? I do not understand the loss of bedspace either . I have a toolbox , shovels , laser case and tripod stacked around my hitch and no problem . Just asking .