Silverado 3500 HD capabilities

   / Silverado 3500 HD capabilities #41  
agree with tcartwri; roi is much higher on diesel; over 100,000 miles even more. its not just the duramax, but add the ally transmission. this is a 300 to 400k drive train. the gas 6.0 is not. hook on to a 15,000 to 20,000 pound trailer and say again there is no difference.
 
   / Silverado 3500 HD capabilities #42  
agree with tcartwri; roi is much higher on diesel; over 100,000 miles even more. its not just the duramax, but add the ally transmission. this is a 300 to 400k drive train. the gas 6.0 is not. hook on to a 15,000 to 20,000 pound trailer and say again there is no difference.

I don't think anyone said there was no difference. That just wouldn't make sense. If they've got the same suspension, same brakes, same tow package etc., then I would have no problem hitching either truck to a "15,000-20,000 pound trailer". Assuming it was legal of course. Now, if I was doing that every day, I'd go for a diesel. Once or twice a month, for short to medium trips, gas will work fine. Also, regarding hitching to a 20,000lb trailer. If I was doing that on a regular basis, I sure as heck would not be hitching it to a 3/4 or even a 1 ton truck. For the same money one could get a medium-duty truck much more suited to those weights.
 
   / Silverado 3500 HD capabilities #43  
Yeah, if I was towing a lot, almost daily, and for long periods, I could justify the diesel. I did some general figuring on this....

On average from various forums, I have read that the Dmax version of any 2500/3500 platform is about a $8K premium in price. Now factor that over a 100,000 miles, and you have roughly an 8 cent per mile cost of operation spread just in equipment.

Now factor general mpg numbers and cost per mile. Seems like a lot of the 2500 crowd is getting roughly 12 mpg averages on the 6.0L (I get around 14 mpg average for all miles, but we will stick with the 12 for this discussion). That would equate, at the current $2.10 price for regular in my area, about 17.5 cents a mile in fuel cost. Now just to break even on the purchase and fuel consumption, the cost per mile just for fuel on the diesel would have to be 9.5 cents a mile to bring the cost of purchase and operation between the two engines in balance. At the current average cost in my area for diesel, $2.80, the diesel pickup would have to be AVERAGING 29+ mpg just to break even from the additional cost of the diesel option in the pickup! That is not going to happen.

And we didn't even factor in the higher maintenance costs of the diesel platform over the gas, which is going to be when you consider the larger oil sump capacities, more filters, DEF for the SCR unit (when it works right), and cleaning of the DPF filter, or an out right replacement (OUCH!).

Except for the serious, dedicated hauler, the diesel makes absolutely no economic sense. It is a viable option in the right circumstances, but for the average user, getting a diesel only makes a statement, not a sound decision. That is why I chose a 6.0L in my new 2500HD, same as a vast majority of the business users of 3/4 and 1 ton pickups in my area, including the farmer's coop guys who regularly haul feed, tow anhydrous ammonia trailers to farmers, etc. Most of them are now on 6.0L gas instead of diesel.

Too add to your comparison I checked the value of and 2005 Silverado 3500, 4x4, LT, with 100,000 miles. Fair price for this truck with a diesel is $25,892 and for a gas is $20,689.
 
   / Silverado 3500 HD capabilities #44  
Too add to your comparison I checked the value of and 2005 Silverado 3500, 4x4, LT, with 100,000 miles. Fair price for this truck with a diesel is $25,892 and for a gas is $20,689.

That seams high so I went to Kelly Blue Book and looked up the gasser. It said $8702

Kelley Blue Book

I don't know who is closer to the selling price but I know I wouldn't even look at a 10 year old truck with 100,000 miles for $20,000
 
   / Silverado 3500 HD capabilities #45  
We got $24.5K for a seven year old plain jane F550 at auction. We were stunned to say the least.
 
   / Silverado 3500 HD capabilities #46  
That seams high so I went to Kelly Blue Book and looked up the gasser. It said $8702

Kelley Blue Book

I don't know who is closer to the selling price but I know I wouldn't even look at a 10 year old truck with 100,000 miles for $20,000

Did you look up private party or trade in? I looked up fair retail.
 
   / Silverado 3500 HD capabilities #47  
   / Silverado 3500 HD capabilities #48  
That seams high so I went to Kelly Blue Book and looked up the gasser. It said $8702 Kelley Blue Book I don't know who is closer to the selling price but I know I wouldn't even look at a 10 year old truck with 100,000 miles for $20,000

No way. Trucks of that era are going for twice that much or more with 100,000 miles plus. Thank cash for clunkers for that.

KBB is a joke.

Chris
 
   / Silverado 3500 HD capabilities #49  
Did you look up private party or trade in? I looked up fair retail.

private party, 2005LS, 3500 silverado 4x4 regular cab, good condition
 

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