1025R vs GC1720 vs BX25 vs emax 22

[flienlow]

Ok guys-

Newbie here and these are my Choices. 1025R vs GC1720 vs BX25 vs emax 22. Personally, I know the JD and Kubota the best. I feel the Kubota is best sized for me, but least performing.

I own 10 properties Most of which dont need a tractor, but my current house will need a lot of landscaping and cleaning ect which is why I want a small TLB. I want this to do everything from mowing an untamed lawn to putting in new water lines ect and retaining walls. It wont get used everyday so I need to factor that in too. Where is my best bang for the buck?

Thank you in advance!

 

[TSO]

What are the prices? Which dealer is nearby and reputable?

 

[Olympus]

Best bang for your buck is looking at LS J Series. The J Series is a compact class, not subcompact. You get a bigger, heavier machine, with larger hyrdo pumps, greater lift capacity, and a 3 year bumper to bumper 5 year powertrain warranty. And the best part is that it will be less expensive than any of your choices.

 

[RalphVa]

You didn't mention whether you'll be taking your tractor into any brush. If so, it'd be desirable not to have the hydro fan underneath like it is on the smaller BXs (1870) and smaller JDs (than 1025). The JD 1025 uses the hydro cooler in front of the radiator and therefore just uses the engine fan.

I know from experience that brush can get everywhere underneath. I had brush remove the dipstick on my Gravely.

Ralph

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Ok guys-

Newbie here and these are my Choices. 1025R vs GC1720 vs BX25 vs emax 22. Personally, I know the JD and Kubota the best. I feel the Kubota is best sized for me, but least performing.

I own 10 properties Most of which dont need a tractor, but my current house will need a lot of landscaping and cleaning ect which is why I want a small TLB. I want this to do everything from mowing an untamed lawn to putting in new water lines ect and retaining walls. It wont get used everyday so I need to factor that in too. Where is my best bang for the buck?

Thank you in advance!

The Massey is the prettiest. And red!

I make tractor noises just thinking about the GC1720!

 

[RalphVa]

Impressive comparison. Does the Massey have an Isuzu engine. Somewhere else someone mentioned this. I'm really impressed with the smoothness, no smoke and lack of clatter from my Isuzu diesel generator. Gotta check to see where a Massey dealer is around here.

Ralph

 

[RalphVa]

Closest Massey dealer to Charlottesville is 115 miles away.

Ralph

 

[TSO]

Impressive comparison. Does the Massey have an Isuzu engine. Somewhere else someone mentioned this. I'm really impressed with the smoothness, no smoke and lack of clatter from my Isuzu diesel generator. Gotta check to see where a Massey dealer is around here.

Ralph

No, the compact Massey's (as well as the 46xx series) are built by Iseki. The pre tier 4 tractors had Iseki diesels, but for tier 4, they switched to Mitsubishi and Shibaura engines, depending on the model.

 

[paulfun9]

Best bang for your buck is looking at LS J Series. The J Series is a compact class, not subcompact. You get a bigger, heavier machine, with larger hyrdo pumps, greater lift capacity, and a 3 year bumper to bumper 5 year powertrain warranty. And the best part is that it will be less expensive than any of your choices.



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Have to agree with the LS suggestion! Definitely worth a good look, Especially if they can be had at the same price point

 

[flienlow]

Have to agree with the LS suggestion! Definitely worth a good look, Especially if they can be had at the same price point

I have a little update on my quest. After reviewing and shopping I am finding this.

Kioti- great tractor. not great for a backhoe, or ergos for me

Kubota- Expensive for what you get. A lot of preconceived issues with performance of hydraulics. So far this tractor BX25 is sized about right for me (along with the Kioti)

Mahindra- I think I will avoid this tractor. ALL OF THEM look like **** on the lot and they are all brand new. Lots of surface rust, and fading plastic. - Not only that, but not really a deal so why bother?

John Deere- Fantastic tractor, but I think it is going to be too big for the place that I live in. Its not a whole lot bigger than the Kubota, but it is. I fear that extra couple of inches may haunt me. Still undecided. Have a great bid for one at 193000 out the the door including 7.7% tax.

Massey Ferguson. 2 hour drive away from me and they dont have one int stock.
quote from a dealer even farther away
"MFGC1720 w/ R-4 Industrial Tires and a 12" Bucket $18,500.00 and payment of $252.52 @3.49 for 84mo.

MFGC1710 w/ R-4 Industrial Tires and 12" Bucket $17,500.

Delivery from us to you $450.
"
I would really like to see this tractor in person, but they are far far away if something happens.

LS Tractor- Called and talk to remote dealer. he was too busy to engage over the phone and price over phone indicted they more expensive then anything else. I think I am going to pass on an expensive no name tractor - Just me.

 

[Pierrepont]

Unless you have some specific limitations, may I suggest you consider only brands / models that are wider. You'll be surprised at how many of the machines in this category are only 44" + / - wide. Too narrow and tippy for some chores at some locations.

Why compromise on safety, look for 50" - 55" + / - machines. Much more stable and no more money than the little narrow models.

 

[flienlow]

I have a long, narrow, steep lot. We have decks, trees and slopes to contend with. 50" + tractors are just simple too big. Although you have sound logic.
Thank you.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Go to tractorhouse.com and look up the Massey and call around.

Buy a utility trailer able to carry a ton. Utility trailers are relatively inexpensive and just two uses carrying the tractor covers the cost at $450 a throw your dealer wanted you to pay.

With the trailer, you are now free. If you really don't want to do any maintenance yourself, swing by your local auto repair shop and ask your mechanic if he wouldn't mind doing the regular service.

With this plan in place you are now free to shop the far side of the moon.

 

[flienlow]

Go to tractorhouse.com and look up the Massey and call around.

Buy a utility trailer able to carry a ton. Utility trailers are relatively inexpensive and just two uses carrying the tractor covers the cost at $450 a throw your dealer wanted you to pay.

With the trailer, you are now free. If you really don't want to do any maintenance yourself, swing by your local auto repair shop and ask your mechanic if he wouldn't mind doing the regular service.

With this plan in place you are now free to shop the far side of the moon.

My General feeling is that most of these tractors are bullet proof as far as running gear. My biggest fear is not of the engine blowing up ect. I cab also drain oil as good as anyone else too so that is not an issue for me.

You really like the Massey, why? It looks to be the same as the the john deere. no?

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

. . . LS Tractor- Called and talk to remote dealer. he was too busy to engage over the phone and price over phone indicted they more expensive then anything else. I think I am going to pass on an expensive no name tractor - Just me.

He might have been in the middle of a deal with a customer. If you were sitting in front of him finalizing a deal, you wouldn't want him to get on a 10 minute telephone sales conversation either.

If his price is more expensive than anyone else, then either he was just throwing a high price at you and blowing you off, or you were pricing a lot higher capacity tractor than the other brands you priced. I'm a Kubota and Kioti fan, but LS builds a great tractor and, typically, you can buy an equivalent LS for less money than Kubota, Deere or Massey, and usually just a little bit under Kioti.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

My General feeling is that most of these tractors are bullet proof as far as running gear. My biggest fear is not of the engine blowing up ect. I cab also drain oil as good as anyone else too so that is not an issue for me.

You really like the Massey, why? It looks to be the same as the the john deere. no?

When I looked into sub-compact tractors the Massey was the best of them. The 1000 series Deere were not rugged enough for my intended uses and I was comparing to 2000 series Deer, which were more expensive than the Massey.

 

[Code54]

Keep your eyes open for deals from Kubota - around here they have several rebates and offers. When I bought our little BX it was less than any other "major" brand and very very close to the less popular ones. I just personally like the reliably I have had in the past with Kubota, the ease of getting any part or accessory and the real world capabilities.
Nothing wrong with the others- just my experience.

 

[Olympus]

LS Tractor- Called and talk to remote dealer. he was too busy to engage over the phone and price over phone indicted they more expensive then anything else. I think I am going to pass on an expensive no name tractor - Just me.

He's either full of BS or he's selling another brand with better profit margins. I'm here to tell you for a fact that LS will be less expensive than any other brand and will be a larger machine with WAY better specs

I bought a brand new J2023 at the beginning of last year. I paid $12,200 for my machine, which included the front loader. Not even the smaller, lower spec SCUTs from JD, Kubota, and Massey were even with $1000 of that price. Tell you what, you call Magee Equipment in Poplar Bluff, MO and ask for Doug Jackson. Ask for a quote on a J2023 and you'll see for yourself. I'll even send you a photo of my receipt. I still have it in my owners manual.

LS is not a no-name, expensive brand. LS has been making the Boomer Series for New Holland for many years. Is New Holland a no-name brand? Well anyone owning a New Holland Boomer is actually owning a LS with different decals. I suggest doing a little more research before making such ignorant (used in the technical sense) comments. Or better yet, listen a little closer to those of us who own LS tractors since we have direct, firsthand experience.

 

[murphy1244]

When I looked into sub-compact tractors the Massey was the best of them. The 1000 series Deere were not rugged enough for my intended uses and I was comparing to 2000 series Deer, which were more expensive than the Massey.

+2 on the Massey, If I was to buy a sub compact that would be it. Compare the hydraulics too. Massey is better.

 

[trollingfever]

thanks for the video!