1025R vs GC1720 vs BX25 vs emax 22

[TSO]

Just when I thought it was getting easier to select, you had to go and make it difficult for me again!

I was told by a Kioti dealer that "Daedong makes 20,000 extra tractors a year they don't sell." Meaning they are Kubotas.

Looking at just rear tractor fenders alone, there are clear similarities between a lot of them. How could they all possible look and be the same while being manufactured by multiple different companies? I know the big "American" names are about as American as Kimchi. In truth,I really don't care. I just want something that does what I need it to do for a decent price.

I could be misguided, but right now its looking like the GC1720 is in the lead. If the JD wasnt too expensive it would be in my driveway right now.

Your dealer is making a misleading statement. Daedong and Kubota did have some early collaboration, but apparently no modern connections.

Naturally, a fender looks like a fender ... Not a whole lot of variation available there.

The list I posted is accurate.

 

[Johnnymossville]

implement compatibility makes similar class machines look similar. it's a good thing. that said, there are so many tiny little differences it all adds up. Great choices in every single class of tractor out there. Pretty amazing isn't it?

 

[s219]

Well, there are similarities because some of the younger newer brands have clearly copied the basics from the established brands. In some cases, even colors. In general, the similarity ends there, and there are other differences that make the brands unique and easy to tell apart.

There are no current ties between Deere and Massey or Kioti and Kubota, not even remotely.

Some Deere compacts are still made by Yanmar and/or have Yanmar diesel engines, but don't look anything like Yanmar's own models.

 

[flienlow]

So in this day of video and reviews, where can I find real world reviews and comparisons from real owner? I am finding a little but not a lot. The one site that rates tractors rate the BX25 higher than the 1025r and GC1710, but I am finding most find the Kubota to be a pile.

 

[TSO]

So in this day of video and reviews, where can I find real world reviews and comparisons from real owner? I am finding a little but not a lot. The one site that rates tractors rate the BX25 higher than the 1025r and GC1710, but I am finding most find the Kubota to be a pile.

I haven't heard any consensus saying the Kubota is a pile ...

 

[Johnnymossville]

Kubotas are definitely not a pile. I think most owners really like them, and they sell well for a reason. They are a good machine.

 

[flienlow]

Kubotas are definitely not a pile. I think most owners really like them, and they sell well for a reason. They are a good machine.

I can't sling a dead cat in the air without slapping a BX25. Same for the 1025R. Not a dime a Dozen for sure. but you could have pick of the litter around here if you want to sally up the cash. Just my luck, I want the GC1720 and there is NONE in a 4 state area from me.

 

[nikerret]

Here's a thread I started, about my observations of used models you are looking at.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...28518-2012-kubota-bx25-tlb-vs.html?highlight=

I am going with the Kubota BX25D-1. The pros and cons of the newer BX25D-1 and 1026R are the same as what I found on the used models. There is a dealer close (80 miles) that will sell me a new Kubota BX25D-1 with the 60 MMM, 12" bucket, and the 3 PT kit for $18,500, financed or $18,000 cash. They will also come to me, to fix on site or pick up the machine (and drop it back off), if I have a warranty issue.

I didn't get very far looking for the MF GC series. The local dealer has a GC1715, but they refuse to respond to inquiries on the price. They don't know what the price would be for the backhoe model (which is what I am interested in). I called around all the local MF dealers, in my area (up to 100-150 miles). I know why there aren't many MF's around here. Two dealers refused to give me a quote, because I wasn't local. A couple of others acted like I was a waste of their time. Some were okay and two were pretty good. None of them had the tractor I wanted to see, or much knowledge of the model. The price quotes I got were all high, compared to the Kubota and some were even higher than the JD quotes.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

The reason you are finding many more BX25's available than GC1710's is because Kubota sells a lot more of them than MF sells of the GC1710. There may be a reason for that. The sales volume alone would suggest that the BX25 is not a pile. If it was, you would be reading about all the problems here on TBN.

If you've read much here on the BX25, I suspect most of what you've read has been positive. I'm sure the BX25 isn't perfect (because no tractor is) but the overall experience of owners seems to be positive. I have its older brother, the BX23, and it has been great.

I'm sure the MF GC1710 is a great little tractor too. And if that's the one you really want, then I'm sure one will turn up sooner or later if you're patient. Life is short, and you should buy the one you really want.

 

[TSO]

Check eBay ... May be some there.