Buying Advice Cabela's selling Compact Tractors

[IslandTractor]

Rear remotes may be cheap and good enough for snow plows and simple stuff, but not for things that require rapid coordination and timing of loader functions with the third function. Here I am operating a Kubota M135X with the plow functions slaved to the rear remotes. I'm proficient, and it stinks in comparison to having everything on a joystick loader control which is why my equipment is set up with a 3rd function as electric over hydro buttons on the joystick. YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bl9T23W-ik

I used rear remotes to control a grapple. Worked extremely well. I don't know what you are using your third function for on your NX other than operating the grapple or 4n1. Most folks don't use FEL remotes to do much else. I don't doubt that there might be other tasks where a true third function would be a real benefit but I haven't come across any situation in my non commercial use. I really think the 4 on the floor vs automatic tranny analogy is appropriate. If you've never gotten used to shifting then auto transmission may well be better but once you've formed some muscle memory, using a separate lever just plain works.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I used rear remotes to control a grapple. Worked extremely well. I don't know what you are using your third function for on your NX other than operating the grapple or 4n1. Most folks don't use FEL remotes to do much else. I don't doubt that there might be other tasks where a true third function would be a real benefit but I haven't come across any situation in my non commercial use. I really think the 4 on the floor vs automatic tranny analogy is appropriate. If you've never gotten used to shifting then auto transmission may well be better but once you've formed some muscle memory, using a separate lever just plain works.

You said it yourself: "You haven't…."

Why do you keep asserting to those of us who have?

 

[IslandTractor]

You said it yourself: "You haven't…." Why do you keep asserting to those of us who have?

Because I haven't seen anything but a grapple or bucket on your NX.

Why do you keep going over the top with your recommendations? You haven't owned your tractor for even a year and still seem to be figuring out how to operate it without breaking it. Perhaps you should get a bit more seat time before advising others.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Because I haven't seen anything but a grapple or bucket on your NX.

Why do you keep going over the top with your recommendations? You haven't owned your tractor for even a year and still seem to be figuring out how to operate it without breaking it. Perhaps you should get a bit more seat time before advising others.

Because of my heavy equipment operating experience.

Also, recall you're the guy asserting to everybody over on the Kioti forum that your 40hp tractor can do the work of a 60 hp tractor without consideration that larger tractors tend to work faster.

Moreover, a consistent theme is your assumption that other people have no money, share your identical views, and have never driven or used to exquisite proficiency, anything with a clutch.

All I can say is that it seems to be impossible for you to understand any perspective that is different than how you'd do it.

I'll bottom-line it for you: any system that groups all the controls together for one hand without need to move that hand from one set of controls to another will always be more efficient.

 

[IslandTractor]

Because of my heavy equipment operating experience. Also, recall you're the guy asserting to everybody over on the Kioti forum that your 40hp tractor can do the work of a 60 hp tractor without consideration that larger tractors tend to work faster. Moreover, a consistent theme is your assumption that other people have no money, share your identical views, and have never driven or used to exquisite proficiency, anything with a clutch. All I can say is that it seems to be impossible for you to understand any perspective that is different than how you'd do it. I'll bottom-line it for you: any system that groups all the controls together for one hand without need to move that hand from one set of controls to another will always be more efficient.

1) Larger tractors work faster when they are not broken perhaps. You seem to damage your equipment regularly and certainly more often than any other TBN member I've come across in almost ten years. Think about it.

2) Waste not, want not. Pissing away money on gadgets and more HP than needed to do the job is simply wasting resources. If you have extra cash, send it to Oxfam or Save the Children.

3) You seem to think nobody could clear land before someone reprogrammed your engine to put out an extra 15 hp. All the land clearing functions your tractor provides are also present in a 45hp version of the identical tractor which is more than adequate. You could run a six ft bush hog with 33hp at PTO just fine. You might even manage to use it without breaking it. Your extra hp doesn't improve your loader functioning one iota. Using extra HP to ram things will break it however.

4) Don't trust my experience, ask others about their experience. Have you read any posts from others doing land clearing who felt a DK40/45 was not enough tractor to get the job done?

5) I acknowledged that some remote functions might benefit from a diverter or third fxn valve but I also pointed out that the vast majority of users here are only operating a simple grapple cylinder. No need for fancy valves to do that simple task. If you like playing Nintendo games with your joystick that's fine but don't oversell the need for something other than a basic control valve for a simple task.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

1) Larger tractors work faster when they are not broken perhaps. You seem to damage your equipment regularly and certainly more often than any other TBN member I've come across in almost ten years. Think about it.

In total, I've damaged three gas caps, one cab top, the front grill, two rear fender extensions, and the gas tank. I'm a believer of running what I've got, and fixing and modifying as needed. As a result, I fabbed up guards to protect stuff the first time the tractor made it back to a tinkerage. Remember, I'm the first to put an NX into the woods in North America and talk about it. The first to put on three sets of remotes when the factory said we couldn't. The first to put on a third function and make it with hard lines. The first to sound dampen the cab. The first to fab up and install belly armor, a thing that every tractor in this class should come with but doesn't. And then you must consider what kind of material I'm processing and how fast.

2) Waste not, want not. Pissing away money on gadgets and more HP than needed to do the job is simply wasting resources. If you have extra cash, send it to Oxfam or Save the Children.

Why did you get a tractor? Surely you could do some of those tasks with a spoon. Wasting your money, right down the drain.

3) You seem to think nobody could clear land before someone reprogrammed your engine to put out an extra 15 hp. All the land clearing functions your tractor provides are also present in a 45hp version of the identical tractor which is more than adequate. You could run a six ft bush hog with 33hp at PTO just fine. You might even manage to use it without breaking it. Your extra hp doesn't improve your loader functioning one iota. Using extra HP to ram things will break it however.

You're projecting. This is entirely your argument. Others have attempted to point out your factual errors, but facts fell upon def ears.

4) Don't trust my experience, ask others about their experience. Have you read any posts from others doing land clearing who felt a DK40/45 was not enough tractor to get the job done?

Never a worry that I'll trust your experience. After all, like your argument implies, given enough time, a person could clear a forest with a diner knife and a coping saw.

5) I acknowledged that some remote functions might benefit from a diverter or third fxn valve but I also pointed out that the vast majority of users here are only operating a simple grapple cylinder. No need for fancy valves to do that simple task. If you like playing Nintendo games with your joystick that's fine but don't oversell the need for something other than a basic control valve for a simple task.

Yes, nicer, more efficient setups work better and are easier to use. If a person can afford to get these nicer set-ups, then why not? After all, nicer set-ups makes tractor use and ownership all the more enjoyable and productive.

 

[ededic]

So how are the rear remotes on a Cabelas tractor?

 

[Cherokee140]

I've got a slipping C6/C7 disk. I'm holding out for a replacement disk rather than a straight up fusion like you've got. Heal up fast!

They did do that as well....cadaver bone replaces the destroyed disc....but they have to hold you together.

 

[GManBart]

Remember, I'm the first to put an NX into the woods in North America and talk about it.

That's going to be pretty hard to back up unless you know of every possible place anybody has ever posted about an NX tractor being used in the woods....just saying.

Either way, I don't see why this needs to turn into yet another massive thread drift by a few folks we know are never going to agree on much.

 

[Deerherd]

The Cabelas tractor does come standard with a diverter valve on the joystick. I think they should come standard on all tractors but that was before realizing children would go hungry.