Culvert Question

[justinramani]

Crusher run, 304's, 411's, 3/4 minus etc is all top coat stuff. (or middle coat). But it dont make a very good base unless you have some real solid and dry clay that stays that way. Around here, we us #2's for base, then the 304's for a top coat to lock it all in. And if you dont like the dust content of the top layer, add to that a thin layer of 8's or 57's, whatever your preference

So here is the plan....

1. Let the area settle for about a week
2. Bring in dozer w/six way blade to shape road and cut ditches for water runoff
3. Lay geotextile fabric.
4. Lay base layer of larger stone.
5. Finish off top with crush and run.

 

[s219]

So here is the plan....

1. Let the area settle for about a week
2. Bring in dozer w/six way blade to shape road and cut ditches for water runoff
3. Lay geotextile fabric.
4. Lay base layer of larger stone.
5. Finish off top with crush and run.

That sounds ideal to me.

 

[LD1]

Sounds good to me too, but waiting the week aint gonna gain much at all unless you get a few rains in there

 

[justinramani]

Sounds good to me too, but waiting the week aint gonna gain much at all unless you get a few rains in there

LD1,

That's a good point. I can wait until we have a few good rains.

What do y'all think about bringing in dirt to help out with the really sandy areas? I think that compacting and shaping sand like that won't really be possible.

 

[LD1]

Harf to judge just how sandy it is without seeing in person. Adding dirt or clay to sand may help, or it may make a big mess.

 

[ovrszd]

Again, it's hard for us to advise you. You are talking to a guy from Virginia, a guy from Ohio and a guy from Missouri. You are in North Carolina. I see no similarities in any of those places that might be beneficial to you. For example, LD1's descriptions of stone material are foreign to me. I have no idea what 57s are??

But I think we all agree, you gotta have drainage. That's going to require widening your pathway and elevating, either by dragging outer edge material to the middle or hauling in material.

 

[LD1]

What we have around here. Theres more, but these are the common ones
#2.........base material...............................2-1/2 to 4-1/2"......baseball to softball sized stuff
#4.........Base material...............................1-1/2 to 2"............golfball sized stuff
#57's.....Top coat, also used in concrete..........3/4"...................Grapes or a tad bigger
#8's......Top coat.........................................3/8"...................Common called pea gravel. Except if limestone, limestone aint gravel
#304's...Top coat or base over hard soil.........dust to 1-1/2.......Contains #4 sized stuff, dust, and everything in between in a pretty good mix
#411's...Top coat........................................Dust to 3/4".........#57 sized stuff to dust

#304's and 411's are commonly both called crusher run, bank run, etc. 3/4 minus is another word to 411's also.

 

[ovrszd]

What we have around here. Theres more, but these are the common ones
#2.........base material...............................2-1/2 to 4-1/2"......baseball to softball sized stuff
#4.........Base material...............................1-1/2 to 2"............golfball sized stuff
#57's.....Top coat, also used in concrete..........3/4"...................Grapes or a tad bigger
#8's......Top coat.........................................3/8"...................Common called pea gravel. Except if limestone, limestone aint gravel
#304's...Top coat or base over hard soil.........dust to 1-1/2.......Contains #4 sized stuff, dust, and everything in between in a pretty good mix
#411's...Top coat........................................Dust to 3/4".........#57 sized stuff to dust

#304's and 411's are commonly both called crusher run, bank run, etc. 3/4 minus is another word to 411's also.

Sorry to the OP for the hijack here. But this is amusing and educational to me.

Here, pea gravel is natural stone sieved to a maximum size in inch measurements, usually 1" and down.

Here, limestone is always called gravel and is what's most commonly used to gravel roads, parking lots, etc.

Here, size is almost always in inch measurements. Then there are some additions to the name to described other materials involved. For example I have my township roads "graveled" with 1-1/4" gravel (crushed limestone). It is maximum 1-1/4" size down to course lime which is pea size.

The State uses 3/4" modified. It is 3/4" maximum, 1/2" minimum. Everything below screened out. It's also used in the making of concrete.

The quarries normally stock 2" (2" and down), 3" (3" and down) and sometimes 4" (4" and down) for base material. Next thing up from that is rip-rap, which is dynamited and loaded out of the hole before it goes to the crusher. The buyer can be selective about maximum size but generally takes what they get. Usually 2' diameter and down. It's normally used to fill large holes or very soft mud crossings. I use it around the ends of road culverts to control erosion. State uses it around bridges for the same purpose.

Very interesting how different regions name it differently. In your references, I see no correlation between the names and the size of the material.

 

[GPintheMitten]

Is this covert going to be on a primary driveway to your house? What do you plan on driving over it? Tractor and pickup or cement mixing trucks?

 

[justinramani]

Is this covert going to be on a primary driveway to your house? What do you plan on driving over it? Tractor and pickup or cement mixing trucks?

No, it's not a road to a house. It's an access road so that we can get to the rear of our property. That being said, heavy equipment, trucks, trailers, etc will need to be able to cross it.