Culvert Question

[RedNeckRacin]

PennDot Stone Cross reference To confuse things even more PennDot has their own system that I'm familiar with. This chart does cross reference to AASHTO though.

 

[LD1]

I know the scalehouse lady at our quarry. I'll call her later today and inquire.

I too and curious to see what she says.

I am curious to what she will say too. I have seen so many references on here by members calling rock products so many different names. It is laughable when people roll off these product names like we in different regions would know what that means.

Yep. Lots of different local names for things. But I thought (maybe wrongfully so) that the numbers I listed were kinda universal. Thats why I call them that.

 

[LD1]

These guys are out of median OH. I have no affiliation with them, but they do have a nice size pictorial that shows exactally the numbers I referenced

Albrecht Trucking-Limestone

 

[ovrszd]

Well, I'm almost embarrassed to post the results..... We ain't very technical here in the Show-Me State.

She said they carry the following products.

AG Lime - crusher dust used to raise the PH level on farm ground
Course Lime - material too large for AG use and too small to be included in 3/8" chips, used for fill material under concrete for example
3/8" chips - 3/8" chips with fines screened out, used to chip/seal road oil, primarily used by State Hiway Dept to chip seal road shoulders, etc.
3/4" modified - 3/4" stone with fines screened out, used primarily in the making of asphalt and sometimes used by State Hiway Dept on road shoulders.
1" road rock - 1" stone with an allowed percentage of smalls, AG Lime screened out, used for driveways and limited use roadways and/or parking lots.
1-1/4" road rock - 1-1/4" stone with an allowed percentage of smalls, AG Lime screened out, used for heavier trafficked roadways or driveways and/or parking lots that are based on softer material. It's what I use on my country gravel roads.
2" oversized rock - 2" stone with an allowed percentage of smalls, AG Lime screened out, used for heavier trafficked roadways, driveways, parking lots where more floatation is needed. I sometimes use it to repair soft spots on my country roads. I also use it when converting a dirt road to gravel as a base.
Rip-Rap - which is dynamited rock from the ledge, not crusher ran, can have any maximum size as required, minimum fines because it's not been crushed. I use it around the outflow ends of road culverts in locations where erosion is bad.

That's all she had to offer....

Oh, I rattled off the numbers LD1 had listed with descriptions and she looked at me like I was from Mars.

 

[k0ua]

Oh, I rattled off the numbers LD1 had listed with descriptions and she looked at me like I was from Mars.

I would be willing to bet there are dozens if not hundreds of "designations" for stone products... by state and region.

57's 411's 304's. yeah right.. like I would know what that was...:laughing:

On a forum like this where we have such a diverse group it is amazing that we have as much in common as we do. As an example we all know that orange tractors are best, but then comes the problems of which shade of orange?

 

[LD1]

AG Lime - Same

3/8" chips - #8
3/4" modified - #57
1" road rock - #411
1-1/4" road rock - #304
2" oversized rock - #304
Rip-Rap - Same

Seems to be about what it compares to in my neck of the woods

On a forum like this where we have such a diverse group it is amazing that we have as much in common as we do. As an example we all know that orange tractors are best, but then comes the problems of which shade of orange?

You know, I never said kubota was better. (well maybe just giving you a hard time).

I wouldnt hestiate to own or operate a kioti. Or many other for that matter. Truth is, the best tractor for me has less to do about the actual machine, and more to do with price, availability, and dealer. The only dealers that were in what I consider reasonable distance were deere, CNH, and bota. And bota offered what I needed for less $$$

 

[jrepp44]

So here is the plan....

1. Let the area settle for about a week
2. Bring in dozer w/six way blade to shape road and cut ditches for water runoff
3. Lay geotextile fabric.
4. Lay base layer of larger stone.
5. Finish off top with crush and run.

Sounds like you have a good plan, the only thing I would recommend is during the week you are letting the area settle drive something heavy back and forth repeatedly over the entire area to aid with compacting (provided you have proper soil moisture content).

 

[Streetcar]

AG Lime - Same

3/8" chips - #8
3/4" modified - #57
1" road rock - #411
1-1/4" road rock - #304
2" oversized rock - #304
Rip-Rap - Same

Seems to be about what it compares to in my neck of the woods



You know, I never said kubota was better. (well maybe just giving you a hard time).

I wouldnt hestiate to own or operate a kioti. Or many other for that matter. Truth is, the best tractor for me has less to do about the actual machine, and more to do with price, availability, and dealer. The only dealers that were in what I consider reasonable distance were deere, CNH, and bota. And bota offered what I needed for less $$$

LD1 what part of Ohio are you in .
In southern Ohio and by state specifications 304 and 411 are bank run materials

Here the Deere dealer made the best offer

 

[LD1]

Yes, 304 and 411 I have heard called bank run, crusher run, 3/4-minus and 1-1/2 minus etc.

411 is everything that will fall through a 3/4" screen. Pebbles, dust etc

304 is anything that will fall through a 1-1/2" screen

 

[ovrszd]

Yes, 304 and 411 I have heard called bank run, crusher run, 3/4-minus and 1-1/2 minus etc.

411 is everything that will fall through a 3/4" screen. Pebbles, dust etc

304 is anything that will fall through a 1-1/2" screen

When this numbering process was being created how did they come up with those numbers?? My pea size (3/8" chips) brain can't find any connection.